20 months for a man who talked about having a baby solely for abusing it is not enough.
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What an absolute scumbag. And only 20 months?
It was being so deliberately calculated too. How do they know he's not just going to get out and do it again in a way that is harder to monitor?
Honestly.
At the same time, it's hard to know if he was actually going to enact the plan or if he was just talking out a fantasy online. Hopefully they monitor him closely when he is released.
Can a paedophile be reformed? I really have my doubts....
I agree that the base attraction can't be cured but I think there is potential for SOME to reform their lives and behaviour, with support - not everyone though.
But there does need to be an appropriate level of punitive detention first, 20 months is jackshit especially as it's so short the perp is unlikely get access to treatment courses or any other meaningful support to prevent reoffending after release. This is just irresponsible to the public and even to this person
20 months in prison for a Rock Spider can be a life sentence.
They do get targeted by other prisoners for abuse.
If you are a seasoned murderer who has multiple life sentences, regretting your life choices, and you meet someone who has abused children, what have you got to loose? You are able to do something (that you interpret as being) good for the community and hopefully save some little kiddies and make the world a better place.
I am not defending either party here, but for some offenders, 20 months may be too much, or not enough. The Judiciary need to make this decision, depending on the offender.
Speaking as a therapist who works with non offending paedophiles, I can confirm they can change and grow.
Actually, they're a lot like human beings in their capacities, shockingly.
You could have just stopped at the first paragraph. Just sayin.
The second part was me just sayin
Depends.
You have pedophilia as in the part of their brain that identifies viable sexual partners is malfunctioning, they won't act on it, but are attracted to children. I'd argue they don't need reformation as it's not the attraction that's the problem to society, it's acting on it. I'd imagine it's a hell of a bad place to be, but they do exist, and there are attempts to help people before they go over the edge. This is where you get the 'attempts to destigmatise' that some people wildly grab the wrong of the stick on.
But then you have those that act on it...well it involves ignoring consent, ignoring knowledge that it's wrong, and going out of your way to deliberately abuse a child....basically there's so many fucking steps they have to consciously take that outside of some pretty severe mental health issues they're irredeemable cunts that decide nothing matters past what they want and need to be fired out of a cannon into the sun.
What the actual fuck?! 20 years would have been justified.
Agreed but what also gets me is that they don’t deal with the chat environments.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
It was an ongoing conversation about methods of sexually abusing babies and toddlers that brought Jonathon Lester Edwards to the attention first of US authorities and then of the Australian Federal Police.
Edwards, a 34-year-old chef from Bairnsdale in eastern Victoria, had been speaking with an American woman named Nadia in an online paedophile chatroom when the US-based National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children started monitoring their conversations.
Following a tip-off from the US authority, AFP investigators raided Edwards' home in December 2021 and, across five devices, found at least 6,388 files containing videos and images of child sexual abuse, organised by gender and age of the children exploited in the material.
"You said, 'I'm a really normal guy outside of the bedroom with good friends, family and a job, part of sports clubs … but behind closed doors we could live our dreams."
At a plea hearing in the Latrobe Valley County Court on November 1, after which Edwards was remanded, prosecutors outlined depraved discussions between him and others in online encrypted paedophile chatrooms.
Crown Prosecutor Jake Morrison told the court Edwards' offending had flow-on effects, fuelling a market which exploited children around the world.
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20 months is plenty of time for the other prisoners to find out what he's charged with.
Say what you wish about mob justice, but it's honest.