Great stats! Monero.com is my go-to mobile wallet for everyday use :D
this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2023
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A Cake contributor or contributors are also running, or related to, a blockchain analytics provider, Moonstone Research, specialized in tracing difficult-to-trace payment methods such as Monero, proudly saying, “Moonstone Research can provide leads when no other blockchain analysis firm can.” How? Maybe because their technology is so great, and/or unlike other companies, they’re running major remote nodes themselves, monitoring and recording a lot of things.
The positive side is, this Moon-Cake duality could help Monero improve, become more private, more untraceable. They simply may have tried to help solve the recent incident, never using it as a promotional opportunity of their unparalleled blockchain analytics.
- Postmortem of Monero CCS Hack: A Transaction Graph Analysis https://monero.town/post/996649
That said, this reminds me of Team Cymru, a company basically selling its skill to deanonymize netflow data. Someone from Team Cymru had managed to become an important board member of the Tor Project, hosting TorProject.org website and several bridges to the Tor Network. The Tor Project admitted the conflict of interest, and quickly fixed the issues once discovered.
Like mentioned above, the Moon-Cake duality could work positively for Monero. Nevertheless, one might want to think carefully about the potential ramifications of using Cake Wallet, related services, and especially their remote nodes. Nothing personal against Cake, its contributors, developers, supporters/users. On the contrary, I genuinely thank Justin Ehrenhofer (sgp/SamsungGalaxyPlayer) for revealing (at least part of) what they can do, what they’re doing as a side business. Thank you!
Justin is no longer with Cake. He left to work on this project. It has nothing to do with me or Cake.
Thank you for confirming that there would be indeed some COIs between Cake and Moon, and that at least one of Cake’s contributors or ex-contributors has started this anti-Monero (?) blockchain analytics provider.
A dilemma is: if Cake is not a honeypot, of course you deny the claim that it’s a honeypot; if Cake is indeed a honeypot, of course you deny the same claim. If Moon and Cake are totally unrelated, you say, “They’re unrelated.” If Moon and Cake are secretly or subtly collaborating in some way, you say the same thing. So asking or answering a question about something like this is largely pointless.
Probably an ideal solution is not trust, but math and technology. Yet pure P2P doesn’t look very realistic, so a centralized big player like Cake may be necessary to some extent. There is always a trade-off between privacy and convenience.
As of writing this, GitHub shows Justin Ehrenhofer as your contributor. You may want to erase the past to avoid “misunderstanding” about what happened. Things must be much easier on Reddit or Twitter 🤭 sorry about that, but this is Monero.town.
Yeah I'll say it again. We have no relation to what Justin is doing. As far as GitHub goes, Cake is open source so anyone can contribute to our repo and he has contributed in the past. There are 10 "members" of our repo at GitHub and Justin is not there. I don't believe we can delete "contributors" as I said because anyone can be.
I like the monero.com wallet, but it is starting to feel bloated. Its like 160MB to download and has a lot of features in it that feel--at least to me--like clutter. It also makes it a slow process to download or update it over tor. Monerujo is quite a bit smaller and with cake pay mobile gone the only feature Monerujo doesnt have that cake does is pay multiple parties in a single transaction and coin control.
Thanks for the feedback. Will look at ways to making it smaller. Thinking of offering a Monero.com "Dark" or something that is super light with no exchange or buy/sell features and only available on Fdroid and only works over Tor.
I agree with @shortwavesurfer@monero.town, what I need in a Monero wallet is good send/receive and maybe an optional fiat api. I feel like all the other online services might as well stay in Cake wallet with the "bloat" coins. I feel like most users that would rather use a Monero-only wallet over multi coin would agree with the sentiment.
Appreciate the work you do.
You can actually do all that in Monero.com today. Turn off fiat, turn off exchange, turn off buy/sell, turn on tor only to connect to onion nodes.
Thanks for the kind words!
All those options are there today. Also the monero.com wallet is monero only.
Nice but...bettet to Defaults to tor but can use proxy or clear as options, i2p for bonus points ;)
Anyone wants insane privacy should use a desktop wallet like redacted intended.
Oh, that would be cool. No buy/sell, no exchange, no fiat API (in my opinion) and only on tor.
The one thing I would be curious about would be if it should be only able to connect to tor nodes or both tor and clearnet nodes. I have not figured out why yet, but accessing a clear net node via tor still syncs faster than using a tor node.
You can actually do all that in Monero.com today. Turn off fiat, turn off exchange, turn off buy/sell, turn on tor only to connect to onion nodes.
This would be dope
I recently installed it and thought the same, that it just feels very bloated, unfortunately
I really hope monero pops off
I don't know why I can't see all comments. But just to let everyone know you can turn off fiat api, buy/sell feature, exchange, and many many private settings in Cake and Monero com wallet.
Sorry if I’m posting this message over and over again, but I’m having trouble with Lemmy.