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Congressional staff say the mood inside the Capitol is tense, stifling and bewildering as members brush off their constituents’ outrage.

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Let's see how the strategy of ignoring calls from your base a year before a contested election that your opponent polls higher in key states works out for them. It feels like the DNC is trying to lose in 2024 right now.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It feels like the DNC is trying to lose in 2024 right now.

And this is new, how? It feels like they're trying to throw every election. They never even bother to call out Republicans on their shenanigans and they spend a lot of time being like "We know the fascists passed these very fascist laws, but everything falls apart if we don't take the obviously fascist laws they passed with the seriousness they deserve by enforcing those fascist laws. We have to play by these rules they've set that benefit them and harm us, because if we did that, it would be unfair and undemocratic." (Conveniently ignores Republicans being unfair and undemocratic.)

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's fair. The DNC loves to rig things because they think they know better than the voters they rely on...

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[–] constate368@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lose to who? The republicans?

Sweetie, we've already established the gridlock of 'lesser evil.' All democrats have to do to win is be slightly less worse than the republicans, which is incredibly easy.

[–] zout@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which works every time, unless it doesn't work.Like when Hillary Clinton lost against Donald Trump.

[–] constate368@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah... hillary clinton wasn't a good nominee.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Blame the DNC for manipulating a Clinton nomination win over Sanders.

[–] zout@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

She was at least slightly less worse than Trump though.

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

True, but the problem was the Dems assumed it was a slam dunk, and wound up pretty much handing Trump the presidency.

It was Her Turn, duh!

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget her campaign literally centered Trump in her "pied piper" strategy.

She built her own political demise.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

And all her supporters still blame progressives.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Except that right now Trump polls higher than Biden nearly across the board in the battleground states. You'd like to think it should be an easy victory against someone with multiple ongoing criminal court cases, but Biden is just that bad of a candidate.

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

If true, we peons pay the price for that, not them.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Congressional staff say the mood inside the Capitol is tense, stifling and bewildering as members brush off their constituents’ outrage.

Why would this be any different than every other issue about which they're ignoring their constituents?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just send out a form letter response, geeze! How hard is it really to ignore your constituents effectively? I've been receiving form letter responses for decades now, it's not hard guys! You don't even have to functionally address any points made by your constituents, just shit out a form letter with a loose connection to the ideas presented and you're good.

The number of times an elected official has made it clear that my opinions mean fuck-all to them is extremely high.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Would help if we didn't cap the house of reps.

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[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

On the one hand, congressmen know that if they don't back Israel unconditionally, they will be accused of being antisemitic, in league with Nazis.

On the other hand, Israel routinely violates human rights, it conducts an apartheid regime in the West Bank, it sponsors settlers whose actions clearly violate international law, and its conduct in Gaza looks more like genocide than it doesn't. And it does all of that with US backing, despite US law forbidding the US from giving military aid to countries that ...violate human rights.

So, if you recognize any of that, you're a Nazi?

It's so frustrating to know that our elected leaders are made to not recognize actual human rights violations, for fear of being accused of antisemitism even though Israel's government is not the same thing as the Jewish people.

My social media is full of Jews pointing out that Israel's actions goes against their faith, that they experience pain and shame knowing that Israel claims to do them in the name of Judaism.

Just once I wish American congresspeople had it in them to exhibit anything like moral courage.

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It’s so crazy because I’m seeing the exact opposite. A bunch of Jewish folks in my extended family being vehemently pro Israel. It’s wild.

[–] Cannacheques 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Didn't Biden already call for a cease-fire not long ago? The best he could do is pulling funding at this stage, putting boots on the ground would be an attack on the spiritual holy land of a variety of religious fanatics and against Zionist beliefs that gentiles should know their place, unless of course Ben himself called on Biden for some imaginary reason 🤔

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

No. He called for a pause, and that's what we got. Now there's a short pause every day while they reload.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

President can't "pull funding". They can only veto a bill.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, they're inconvenienced by people telling the U.S. not to support the bombing of civilians in Gaza. How terrible...

[–] constate368@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

They aren't actually inconvenienced.

Probably enjoying a nice lobster brunch right now.

[–] constate368@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Does anyone actually believe contacting representatives matters?

If it did, why would they take bribes?

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

US Representatives care.

US Senators have achieved escape velocity and can just concentrate on their stock trading and junkets.

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know how many people actually complained about Janet Jackson's boob reveal at the Superbowl?

25

It's just that they each called 1,000 times.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't understand why it's not considered harassment of an elected official when they are doing that.

Calling a few times, sure no big deal, but a thousand times for each person? That's fully in the territory of harassment and abuse.

You shouldn't be rewarded for that behavior by fucking giving in to it.

Especially when rewarding them is saying "Okay, because you harassed us so much we've decided your opinion matters and we'll actually do something about this issue."

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

Before they figured out what went on they did reward them. The FCC fined the broadcasters millions of dollars.

Point is that phone calls aren't a good Guage of public opinion. Non form letter e-mails or letters are much better.

[–] Talaraine@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure Israel is calling in all the favors for supporting our gallavant through the Middle East in the name of revenge.

Oh they answer those calls, though.

So that's after they stole nukes, attacked our warship, and interfered in our elections.

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