No they don’t.
Same as everyone else, they can choose between a moderate and a fascist.
Everyone has issues they don’t want moderation on. That doesn’t mean they are stupid enough to back a person who explicitly says they want to ban them.
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They can also just be less enthused and a few may not vote. They don't even need to decide not to vote - they can intend to, but with an additional logistical hurdle, it ceases to be something they do.
I'm not going to fight to vote if I think both candidates are happy to see me (and people like me) dead. And while Biden wrings his hands at the "jumanitarian" toll, it really looks like it's the political one that has his attention.
People will have legitimate feelings about that and we as Americans are not entitled to Muslims voting against Trump. Even if we desperately need it.
If we do desperately need it, we'll need to earn it.
I just think voting for someone who called for a full and complete ban on your religion entering the country absolves anyone of taking your position seriously in the future.
You say we as if “we” and Muslims are separate. We are all the same. We don’t have to earn Muslim votes. Our party needs to earn all of our votes. Just because they have a specific issue in world politics right now doesn’t make them any different than so many sub groups within the democrat party.
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This is all media-manufactured crisis. Same as “Democrats are in deep trouble. Republicans will win in a landslide in 2022 elections”.
The choice every American is facing is:
- Functioning government with compromises to overcome a difficult situation
OR
- Full blown fascism and end of democracy.
Any republican win will be the last fair election we will ever see in this country before turning into Russia-style elections farce. Take a look at what republicans are doing in Ohio and Virginia ahead of next week’s elections.
This is all media-manufactured crisis. Same as “Democrats are in deep trouble. Republicans will win in a landslide in 2022 elections”.
I agree with you in this case, but in all fairness, based on past cycles, Democrats were likely to be in trouble at that particular time. If not for the actions of grassroots orgs in individual states working really hard on shoestring budgets, the DNC would have totally flubbed it.
They stand upon the shoulders of those who really care and see the existential threat we face. If we can survive this, the DNC's days are numbered, too.
Lol, the guy who literally instituted the Muslim ban or the guy who actually talks about being concerned for Gaza Human Rights and just doesn't want to lose the Jewish vote. Golly, tough call 🙄
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Voting for Trump shouldn't even be an option at this point, it's just ridiculous
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Muslims refusing to vote for Biden is like taking themselves hostage. You know if Trump gets elected he will try to deport them, inspire more hate crimes against them, and would be way worse for Palestinians.
Biden isn't the problem. The problem is that both parties support Israel.
Another problem with not voting is, in my eyes, the same as voting for your least preferred choice. Basically not voting is voting for the other guy.
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I understand and sympathize with their disappointment, but voting Republican would be even worse. The issue at hand is that both parties are pro-Israel.
It would be nice if the Democratic party wasn't simply the "less bad" choice for Muslims (and various POC) on some policies.
I think the loudest proPalestine voices are Democratic. That in and of itself offers at least some choice on the matter.
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You mean the same Trump that wants to try again to institute a Muslim ban? Head of the party that wants to deport Palestinian people? The same guy that has 4 indictments and like 98 felony counts? We have a real constitutional crisis on our hands and if the GOP gets control again, they will NEVER relinquish it.
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Because turnp has had a stellar relationship with minorities in the past.
Remember the forced hysterectomies hosted at the southern border during his years?
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The guy who wants to send brown people "back where they came from" vs the old Guy that actually seems to like brown and black folks, I'm not really seeing where they would possibly be disillusioned, but hey, a lot of people seem to be terminally stupid, and most of those stupid people like to tell us who they are by their red MAGA hats and shitty bumper stickers.
It’s a two horse race and no one can say that voting Republican will help Palestinians. If people vote for a protest against Biden then their vote is lost and the Republicans have a win. The same if people decide that they won’t vote. It’s still a win for the Republicans.
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LoL.... Biden, the guy who's supportive of pretty much all middle eastern countries that aren't maniacal death cults, or Trump who literally banned all Muslims from America.
Do y'all think Trump would deport them all to Gaza or to Geneva by mistake?
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If anyone aside from white upper class males vote for trump, they're certifiably a moron.
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"Genocidal" vs. "extremely genocidal". Gotta love America.
Maybe the DNC should just run someone who isn't complicit in a genocide. Problem solved.
You can’t vote for or against them now anyway. Maybe give it a year and see where things stand then?
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In a memo released Thursday, Biden campaign manager Julie Chávez Rodriguez said her team feels “well-prepared to defeat whoever emerges from the extreme MAGA Republicans’ primary field,” but “this will be a very close general election.”
Biden won 64 percent of the Muslim vote in 2020, and Trump won 35 percent, according to exit polling by The Associated Press.
New polling this week showed Biden’s support among Arab American voters plummeting to just 17 percent, down 42 percentage points compared to 2020. The Arab American Institute, which conducted the poll, said it marks the first time in 26 years of polling Arab Americans that the majority did not claim to prefer the Democratic Party.
Between this recurring news and the fact that it's being taken seriously it feels like team Biden is going to have to go further than an Islamophobia policy implementation. These numbers can likely lose him Michigan as it stands, and ignoring the Midwest has never worked out to a candidates (and all of our) detriment in the recent past. We need concise action to support these communities if we want to keep Michigan blue.
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im sure they'll love the two right wing supreme court justices that are likely to come up in the next four years
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No, they don't. Being Muslim does not make a Person stupid. They can be stupid, certainly, but it isn't because they are Muslim that they must face their stupidity.
This article says that a higher percentage of Muslims voted for Trump in 2020 than did in 2016. Is it really far fetched to think that percentage could continue to rise?
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Yeah, super difficult. An imperfect candidate or a batshit crazy fascist. Whatever should we do, it's a real Sophie's choice.
A government that endorses killing their families or a government that endorses killing their families. Talk about a choice.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
Yet the Republican candidate facing Biden at this stage seems likely to be former President Trump, who famously issued a travel ban on predominantly Muslim nations in his first days in office.
Ameerah Al-Zahrani, a Pittsburgh, Pa. voter who is Muslim, said she feels “extremely discouraged” about the 2024 election and is considering a vote for Cornel West, the Harvard professor and longtime critic of Israel who is challenging Biden from the left.
In a memo released Thursday, Biden campaign manager Julie Chávez Rodriguez said her team feels “well-prepared to defeat whoever emerges from the extreme MAGA Republicans’ primary field,” but “this will be a very close general election.”
Besides the Muslim travel ban policy, Trump also made the controversial move to relocate the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem and declare it Israel’s capital, which infuriated Arabs in the region.
Alawieh noted that on the ground in Michigan, the Republican party is working hard to attract Muslims who may align with the GOP on wedge social issues.
“But I think they have been putting a fair amount of work and in a moment like this, the president’s failure to call for a cease-fire that saves the lives of Palestinian children is exactly the kind of thing that has the potential to open the flood gates of people abandoning the long streak of supporting Democrats.”
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