Thank you! Tuning in from east coast USA. Does the Lemmy community overall have a plan for the inevitable dupe communities across instances?
this post was submitted on 05 Jun 2023
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Just joined from the Mid-Atlantic portion of the 95 corridor myself!
I'd love for someone else to chime in with an answer to your question, because that's something I've been wondering myself. I'm pretty sure the general plan in a federated ecosystem is "one of them will become more active, becoming the 'main' one", i.e. it's an intended feature not an issue. I'm interested to see how that fragmentation might impact an already small user base.
I asked the same question yesterday and ultimately found this post.
It seems like it's going to have to evolve organically. Federating individual communities might work, like if you're subscribed to memes@lemmy.ml it could also pull in posts from memes@sh.itjust.works and other similar communities on a voluntary basis. It is a problem that needs solving though.
Yeah, been trying to learn Rust & Typescript to contribute towards a multireddit feature, but it's definitely an uphill struggle. I'm out of my depth.
Overall though, the fragmentation is mainly just users trying to make this "Reddit 2.0" instead of letting it develop more naturally, and spamming new communities like mad.
In terms of actually active subreddits with actual users & posts & whatnot, which of these 5 is the "real" technology subreddit?
/r/Tech /r/Technology /r/TechNews /r/Computing /r/TechSupport
I could continue, but there's a lot more. I don't think most redditors understand how fragmented everything is.
Hey all, I'll be posting updates periodically about performance and server performance to provide everyone interested with some insights as to how many resources this instance is consuming.
Yay for the new icon! Love the satisfied seal.
Hello from Baghdad. Thanks for hosting. This fediverse needs some getting used to.
Hi. Sorry for late reply. I signed up, got mixed with work and some exams and forgot to check here, lol. I've been hearing about the fediverse for the past couple years I believe, mostly about Mastodon, but never realy dived into it. But yeah, the reddit fiasco, and the shut down of Apollo for reddit made me come and check it out.
How quick does this instance load for you compared to other sites you visit? I'm curious to how well it peers with Baghdad!
Sorry for the laye reply XD. The instance loaf pretty fine and quick. Even faster than reddit.
Thanks Mr. Dude for this instance. I will try not to be a lurker like I usually am, and help contribute to the community.
I am an early (I think) refugee from reddit. Can anyone recommend some communities to join? Still confused about the whole federated thing. Tried Mastodon a while back, but as someone who never used twitter I was pretty confused.
I checked the user count compared to an hour ago and we have 40 new users on the instance. Lol. This is really accelerating.
So, how many users until your beast of a machine actually does catch fire?
Not sure yet but I'm certain we'll find out next week
Greetings from about 5 hours southeast, thanks for setting up this server! Should be interesting to see what happens over the next few days.
Hello! I can finally kick my reddit habit. I have a mastodon account, so I'm already familiar with federation. But these two formats are like very different flavors of ice cream, you know? Happy to be here.
Je peux parler francais aussi. Merci pour l'instance :)
This sh.it better work!
Just gonna leave this here for newcomers. I had no idea how this whole fediverse thing worked until I read this comment.
Hi all, wandering around random small Lemmy servers seeing if I can be of use. To pull communities into your instance, you need to first have someone subscribe. Useful picture in this comment, but basically you go to "Communities" at the top, and start a search with the full URL of the community you want (https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy, for example) and change "Communities" to "All" in the search options.
Once you've clicked through to the community and subscribed, it'll be pulled in forever. If you want to dig around for communities to subscribe to, go to the community finder.
Good luck, and see you around Lemmy :)
Thanks for hosting this!
Hi from Montreal!
Hi! Thanks for setting up this instance! I've also been advising newcomers to sign up here since you seem to have the resources for it.
However, I have been seeing some weird behavior in some federated posts: vote discrepancies and also comments not showing up.
E.g. compare
https://feddit.de/post/764358 with
https://sh.itjust.works/post/9023 (same post federated here)
All votes and comments are missing. Now I don't expect Lemmy to be 100% bug-free of course, but this seems serious. Could you please investigate this?
I'm new here, to this Lemmy thing as well as this 'instance'? (I feel like I'm using hip new words).
I think I have managed to subscribe to a boardgame community that is hosted on !boardgames feddit.de- I can't see the comments and such when viewing from here as well.
I'm also having difficulty finding and adding this solo boardgame community because I can't get it to show up in the search box. Is this a Lemmy thing or an instance thing?
This all is cool, but I'm sad the biggest instance by far is admined by tankies. Like this guy gets quickly banned for posting articles about North Korea and Russia in the world news community.
I really don't see this popping off if new instances aren't willing to block the "main" instance.
He didn't get banned that quickly, he basically called out tankie propaganda for a week before they banned him.
The beauty of this platform is that we actually can block the main instance and also create as many world news communities of our own as we want. It won't take long before the OG communities are outnumbered anyway.
What's a tankie?
A communist who is supportive of authoritarian regimes like Stalin/Mao zedong. They tend to think in terms of opposing capitalism, and therefore any regime which challenges US hegemony can be justified regardless of horrific human rights abuses.
The admin could block it, but it seems already too popular to block given no one else has blocked it yet and most users are on it.
They have already run out of server capacity. They have fewer than 10k users. There will almost certainly be another instance that becomes the default if the reddit exodus occurs as expected.
Also, I haven't seen any instances of lemmy.ml being super aggressive or restrictive. Lemmygrad.ml is blocked by most instances.
If I'm being completely honest, I'll take communists over fascists 10 times out of 10. A leftist backbone is a convenient shield against the alt-right cancer that tends to inhabit these fringe internet communities.
If I’m being completely honest, I’ll take communists over fascists 10 times out of 10. A leftist backbone is a convenient shield against the alt-right cancer that tends to inhabit these fringe internet communities.
100% agreed. While I'm glad the more edgelord/4chan style of instance is blocked here, I appreciate and value the leftist ideals the Lemmy project seems to have been built on, because without them this federated platform probably wouldn't exist as it currently does.
The lemmy[.]ml admins have definitely handed out lengthy temp bans to people from their own instance who were posting a lot of pro-Russia, pro-China, more authoritarian left type of content for getting combative/disrespectful in comments. I don't see why anyone cares what kind of political viewpoints a site admin has as long as they moderate fairly and don't let their internal bias lead to them playing favorites when they should be impartial. The modlog being public is a great way for the community at large to audit that type of thing, and is one of the many things I think the Lemmy project has implemented much better than Reddit ever did.
moderate fairly and don't let their internal bias lead them to playing favorites
So, nobody should be an admin then? It's nigh impossible to completely eliminate personal biases.
The mod log being public is great, and I'll have to make use of that.
I think you misunderstood me. I agree that it's impossible to completely eliminate personal biases, which is why it's important that administrators and moderators of any site be capable of recognizing their own biases so they can make a conscious effort to moderate fairly.
I’d rather reject all genocidal maniacs instead of acting like I need to prefer one over the other for practicality.
I haven't seen anyone advocating for genocide but good for you, you're against genocide
https://raddle.me/f/lobby/96713/heads-up-the-tankie-behind-lemmy-ml-got-banned-from-r
dessalines AKA parentis_shotgun on reddit was banned by the r/socialism mod team for posting fascist LaRouchite propaganda and then praising the reactionary author, who is also a climate change denier who writes conspiracy theory books about the "NWO". He demanded to be unbanned but then made things even worse in their modmail by saying “putting Uyghurs in concentration camps aint cultural genocide because they're extremists”, among other awful things. He refused to apologize for using fascist literature to condemn Uyghurs, and instead kept defending it, so they aint unbanning him.
That’s the admin of the main instance. Advocating genocide.
So I can see that he is interested in and possibly a fan of Lyndon LaRouche, who was a bit of a wackjob but also a free thinker. And he questions whether the treatment of Uyghurs is actually a genocide, which I dont agree with, but is within the realm of rational inquiry. There are no unbiased sources regarding that issue, its all propaganda from both sides. And I can also see that he refused to apologize to the mods of r/socialism.
At no point did you provide evidence that someone was advocating for genocide.
Hi all! Half Romanian, half English, all weird.
My previous accounts are @Barbarian@lemmy.ml (abandoned to alleviate server issues) and @Barbarian@lemmy.reckless.dev (I just thought the server name was cool, looks like it's somebody's abandoned solo instance with registration left on)
Welcome! Definitely not abandoned but I agree we need to bring a little more life to the instance. We are open to suggestions by the community
Oh, I didn't mean this instance. I mean that instance (lemmy.reckless.dev)