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[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean it's the same in America and supposedly we're an extra precious special country that's not shitty.

Kinda weird to see (possible American) people try to flex on Russia when America sucks too.

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think it's just certain countries. I think it's all of them. Does minimum wage anywhere actually allow you to live?

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

You can live off minimum wage in Canada in some regions, if you're children-free. It gets harder with kids, though the state will cover some of it of you're low-income (Like a couple hundred per months, and virtually no income taxes).

[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think minimum wage is intended to be enough to live on. If you start working as a teenager by the time you have to pay your living expenses it would be quite doubtful that you are still making minimum wage.

Then again, as they say, your milage may vary. In my part of the world there might as well be no minimum wage as even the most entry level positions are offering nearly double the minimum wage.

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Offering double is pretty good (Assumedly). Where I live traditionally minimum wage jobs might give you an extra 50p. They are also manned mostly by adults, I mean if they weren't shops would be shut during school hours.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

In US, most people in service industries that pay minimum wage aren't teenagers. They're people across all ages. Teenagers may be more represented there than in other sectors, but there are probably a lot more people in the US making minimum wage or a wage tied to minimum than you think.

A looot of service jobs that don't pay minimum wage are still within a couple dollars of it or so.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Well, you know the Russian motto fits here:

"And then it got worse..."

[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Only half, we got to push harder.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ThemboMcBembo@beehaw.org 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Have some empathy. These aren't oligarchs plotting a foreign war, these are everyday people (half the country!) being forced into poverty.

[–] Spuddaccino@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For real. Just because Putin is a Bond villain doesn't make every citizen of Russia one of his goons.

[–] ribboo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is however people that in very high degree support their president.

[–] java@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How does this support manifest? I'm asking, because there are no real signs. Russian army is struggling to find soldiers and Putin is afraid to start another wave of mass-mobilization.

If somebody echoes propaganda, it doesn't mean that they support anything. There are no actions confirming this support.

There are many more nuances. I suggest reading at least one book on yhe topic of political science and listening to some lectures before coming to conclusions on such a complex matters.

[–] Destraight@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And? The Russians are the bad guys invading Ukraine. Did you forget that?

[–] explodicle@local106.com 14 points 1 year ago

The invaders are Russian but most Russians have no real control over their government. It's easy to suggest "then revolt" when that's not you.

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The link you attached already mentions that isnt accurate. Not everyone living in Russia will publicly annouce they are against their government even if they are.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

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Click here to see the summaryThe findings, from an October survey of almost 5,000 people, put Russia's economic woes in sharp focus and could give the authorities a headache in the run-up to March's presidential election, in which President Vladimir Putin is likely to extend his more than two decades in power.

Record-low unemployment this year is evidence of Russia's stark labour shortages, while the rouble's weakness has added to intense inflation pressure.

Interest rates, already at 13%, are expected to rise further to tackle inflation seen ending the year at around 7%, well above the Bank of Russia's 4% target.

Asked whether their salary was enough to cover basic spending, without taking into account income from second jobs or investments, just one in five Russians surveyed said yes.

The average monthly nominal wage earned by Russians was 71,419 roubles ($756) in July, Rosstat's statistics show.

Russia could miss its 2024 budget revenue target and be forced to hike business taxes if the rouble proves stronger than expected and optimistic economic assumptions fall short, analysts say.


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[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because in Europe everything is fine, isn't it? With the new war inflation is skyrocketing and a new interest raise is around the corner. Thank you EU.

[–] Novemberwind@beehaw.org 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why the Whataboutism?

Also, mind to explain how it is the fault of the EU for Russia starting a war against another country?

[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I'm also interested in this. In fact all of this could be my fault, so I just want to check. The one thing we can be sure of is that it's not the Russian war that's causing any problems anywhere, right? Maybe it's the phase of the moon, or astrology

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Inflation rate of the EU is at its lowest since October 2021.
Meanwhile the conversation rate is 99 Ruble for 1€.
So yes, thank you. We're actually doing pretty alright. But I'm sure your propaganda media tells you something very different.

[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not propaganda media, I live in Europe and I see the prices, the bills and the rental fees. And my salary. Wish me good luck.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well. If you think the grass is greener on Russia's side, then go on and move over.
I also like how you avoided the other persons question of how that's the EU's fault for Russia to play imperialistic asshole.

[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very tolerant... shouldn't we "on the other side" be more democratic? I wish I could move over as you suggested, unfortunately the only option will be passing away because I'm stuck here. I can't even get a passport because in my country public offices have stopped working.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lmao
What in the absolute fuck does this have anything to do with being democratic? Are you just throwing buzzwords around now? Seriously, just move to Russia and get shredded on the front. It would do us all a favor.

[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If this is the finest level of respect and politeness that our culture can produce, we deserve to be defeated and collapse. We're on terminal stage.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least something we can agree on, except that people like you being the reason why that is the case.

[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was talking about behavior and word choice being wrong, never about individual people. This has escalated badly, I won't be answering any more.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

You made up some word salad that had nothing to do with the topic, got called out for it and now got no actual arguments left. You're welcome.