An email isn't a phone call... If I email you at 4:00 AM it's because I'm working at 4:00 AM, not because I expect you to be working at 4:00 AM.
this post was submitted on 23 Oct 2023
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Yeah, who cares when someone sends the email. If your boss expects you to start responding to emails at obscene times, that's another matter.
Exactly. That's why I don't enable email notifications on my phone, and I won't see your 4am email until I roll into the office at 9:15am.
This is true, but when I slack you at 4:00AM...
No... IM is still asynchronous. You and I can have a conversation over time...
Pet peeve: coworkers who don’t understand that Slack, like email, is an asynchronous conversation.
Pet peeve: coworkers that don’t make use of Slack’s in-depth scheduling features to mute messages or requests outside of work hours. I should be able to send you shit at 5am. Whether you’re notified that second or at 9am the following work day is a you problem 🥶
My colleagues having a chat about their favourite tv shows in the operations channel at 7am have entered the chat.
No @here, @channel, or @$USERNAME, no response.
Real pet peeve: people that abuse @here and @channel
People who misuse @channel face The Wheel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHjHXpFiegA
And by misuse, I mean use it for any other reason than SEV0 & SEV1 incidents or an office fire.
an office fire.
You repeat yourself. That's a sev0. And the ticket should be filed accordingly so that remediation tasks can be implemented.
Task 1: Leave building
Priority: 0
Assigned parties: Everyone.
The services aren’t in the office, they’re in the ☁.
These are straight-up 📠.
I work with a team in a time zone about 12 hours off of mine, so we are almost never online at the same time. I sent one guy on that team a message at 3AM his time, and he got all annoyed that I was expecting him to work at 3AM, and I was like no dude, just respond when you start working. So now whenever I sent messages to that guy, I always prefix some text about how this isn't urgent and to ignore it until his work hours start.
I'm literally chatting with a friend in China right now who received a phone call from her boss at 9:30pm for some last minute report she wanted my friend to write for the next day. The friend had previously blocked her number... So she used a different one. Insane shit.
lol
why would you even access work email outside of work hours?
Some people in my office have their work email synced to their phones. They also take home their laptops most weekends to "catch up", "don't fall behind", or "just in case any emergencies".
They are not in leadership positions and we operate Monday thru Friday. Why???
There are a lot of people unable or unwilling to let management's poor planning and time mismanagement flow back up to the management people causing the problems. Or they are convinced that their extra effort will be rewarded somehow without management being forced into awareness of it by the pain of missed deadlines.
In my experience management will just continue to dump on people who will grind away at shit until it is done scheduled hours be damned. They end up becoming too valuable where they're at due to the perseverence, while not actually building or improving any skills. Where's the time for skilling up if you're always busy being the guy churning through the pile of shit no one else will do?
It's the myth that hard work is rewarded. It is, but generally only if it's hard work due to difficulty instead of due to the time cost alone.
They also take home their laptops most weekends to “catch up”, “don’t fall behind”, or “just in case any emergencies”.
Why???
Cause they're using the work issued laptop for home purposes.
I do this just so I can be aware of what's going on because it makes less work for me during work hours. It have silent notifications on for that app, so it doesn't interrupt what I'm doing. I pretty much only read the subject line unless it pertains to me personally. It really only takes a few seconds out of my day, but it makes it so I don't need to start earlier and I can review my emails before my scrum starts at 9 AM. I start working at like 8:50 AM to get logged into my VPN and everything, while some of my coworkers start at 8 AM to review all their emails before scrum.
Some people in my office have their work email synced to their phones
Sure, but configure it to turn off notifications outside work hours. Unless you're oncall, it's probably fine to handle the new emails during business hours.
me when people in america email me at noon american time on friday and tell me they need something done right away
I have a colleague who sends me work messages on Whatsapp when neither of us are at work. I don't think he has a social life, because he is in many other respects a massive cunt.
lol my meetings start at 6:30AM, 8 is downright bougie