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[–] simulacra_simulacrum@lemmy.world 185 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The Persian Empire arguably trumped them all, however, when it created scaphism around 500 B.C.E.

This ancient execution method was also known as “the boats,” as victims were placed in two hollowed-out logs or boats before their suffering even began.

With their heads and limbs sticking out and their bodies trapped inside, the victim was force-fed milk and honey.

Their uncontrollable diarrhea filled the boats as executioners poured honey over the victim’s face — and vermin arrived to not only feast upon the prisoners, but enter their bodies to fatally eat them from the inside out.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was supposed to eat, now that I remembered the existence of this practice, I'm not that hungry anymore.

[–] simulacra_simulacrum@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I have your honeyed toast?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Accompanied by heavy whipping cream

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh god the wikipedia page has some vile descriptions too. Especially the last part for Mithridates

In this way Mithridates, after suffering for seventeen days, at last expired.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaphism

[–] StereoTrespasser@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like how everyone is just ignoring this part:

However, Ctesias's credibility is questionable due to his reputation for fanciful and exaggerated narratives.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

No it's more about the horror of the story than the legitimacy of it.

It was long thought that the Greek God Glycon was a work of fiction for similar reasons. That was until an artifact of Glycon worship was found and later other prints.

We know there were hundreds of Greek underworld gods but only 3 names fully survive today.

Much of what was written has been lost for various instances of destruction.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like most of these "oh my God so brutal" execution methods, scaphism probably never actually happened or is at least exaggerated. Ctesias wrote the only first-hand account of the punishment ever being delivered and his credibility among modern historians is a bit.... questionable. Plutarch's own writings on scaphism were lifted straight from Ctesias, as well.

Even if scaphism did actually happen like Ctesias wrote, it's not like it was a normal thing.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

even if it happened only one or twice, even if it didn't happen at all - someone had to think about it in enough detail to create a torture method beyond most people's imagination

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[–] neptune@dmv.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Oh, Neptune

[–] Beardsley@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's an episode of "Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell" that covers this thing, and i gotta say fellas, that is some of the most fucked up shit.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So many bugs, SO MANY BUGS

[–] BlasserJunge@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Not the Bees! AaAaAAAAaaAA

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Haha Ctesias that jokester. Always exaggerating stories. Haha, wait he's joking right?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Ignisnex@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ancient torture/execution method. Tie you to a boat (or trap you between two boats) and stuff you full of milk and honey, then pour some on you for good measure. The idea is that there are many biting insects and unpleasant things that will be attracted to the milk and honey. Being tied/trapped means your hands aren't free to deal with them. Secondly, a large amount of milk and honey is a really good way to get diarrhea. So eventually, you'll have to deal with that, and biting insects are more likely to swarm around you if you're covered in literal shit. The victims usually die from exposure, but they will have an exceedingly unpleasant time before they expire. Very common to have... Soft tissue areas... Completely consumed before death.

[–] Damdy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What did they give to vegan torturees?

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Milk and honey would be my guess.

[–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

laxatives and sirup?

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Looks like you got suggested the same video as I did last night.

https://piped.video/watch?v=ZSXypSLfVN8&t=804

[–] incendiaryperihelion@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago
[–] TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
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