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[–] Ikaros@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only hope i feel for the future of this country is workers unionizing. Its the only leverage the poor and middle class have. We need more unions.

[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At this point it's a race to see whether the workers will band together before the magats go full fascist. This decade is about to get really interesting.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't want interesting, I want a decent life, preferably not in slavery to the rich... Is it time to move to Sweden?

Same thing happening here. 20% of people voted for the fascists last election. Now they're trying to pass a law forcing teachers, doctors, nurses, etc. to report illegal immigrants to the authorities.

Also, massive cuts to welfare, scrapped environmental goals. The list is expanding

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk.. recently I read about a guy that actually moved from there to America...I was perplexed 🤔.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Grass is always greener to some people.

I have two philosophies in life.

  1. Love where you live despite the flaws
  2. It's easier to fight from inside the belly of the beast than outside it
[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Maybe workers should have more power to influence government decisions as opposed to the current situation where the people with money have the most influence in government?

[–] 2piradians@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago

"Ford's Kentucky Truck plant builds the Ford F-Series Super Duty, Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator SUVs. The plant is one of the largest auto factories in the world and accounts for $25 billion a year in revenue, according to Ford which issued a statement shortly after the walkout."

Fain wasn't bluffing, they're hitting them where it hurts. Go UAW!

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s gonna take everyone being on strike I think. Ford doesn’t give a single fuck as they’ve made clear through years and years of abuse towards its workers.

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would love to see a few go bankrupt over this. Considering last time car companies were at risk they got a bailout, I'm sure the government will quash the strikes if they start to hurt.

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I believe it’s become much more apparent to people including law makers that we can afford to live without these companies. So many startups for electric cars these days could take over those plants and offer better pay (hopefully). We should’ve moved past these shit companies as a world back when that bailout happened, maybe we learned our lesson and can do it this time.

[–] ButtDrugs@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately I don't think any of the new electric car manufacturers are unionized. So a lot of these people would lose union gigs and end up with less pay/benefits at a non-union shop. Sire they could unionized again but that's it's own battle just to get back to where they started.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New companies don't usually treat their people shitty while starting up. Otherwise they'd never make it in the first place. I think it's later down the road when the greed kicks in and workers start getting screwed. So at least for a few years it should be win/win even without a union.

[–] Magrath@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not true. Start ups tend to take advantage of people's hopes and dream of working for a start up. Not sure what the big deal is with start ups. Here's the first article I found from a quick google search https://sifted.eu/articles/mental-health-workplace

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A data set of 133 europeans isn't much to base anything on. I do believe there are plenty of startups that are shitty to work for due to the reasons outlined in the article. How many are like that is hard to say.

[–] Magrath@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A data set of 133 is better than your data set of 0.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

I'm not the one making blanket statements.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago

Maybe the managers should pull themselves up by the bootstraps and run the plant on their own.

[–] Parabola@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Love to see it, stay strong!

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ford thinks they can weather this since they needed to cut output anyway.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they have been intentionally making a bad offer so the union strikes and thus production is cut while they blame it on the union to stockholders.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the play but it is has expiration date, hopefully strikers will out last these brain dead lEaDERShIP

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They just make a reasonable offer then. Most strikers cannot afford to last much longer - the union pays less than minimum wage for carrying signs (I haven't checked this strike, but that is typical)

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure what this particular contract looks like but UAW is huge. Likely with a lot of money in their strike fund. I'd suspect they're getting something like 60+% of whatever their pay was.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ford thinks they can weather this since they needed to cut output anyway.

[–] fosho@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I'm seeing double here. 4 krusties!