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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

He also doesn't want Ukraine to plotz.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I understand that Zelensky has no choice but support Netanyahu. But it seems Netanyahu's a monster who forces Zelensky call for other nations to join for Israel's psyop on utilizing genocide.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So BiBi is making Zelensky do this?

[–] neptune@dmv.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thought is that the US is implying or directly stating that support for Ukraine is contingent on Zelensky supporting Isreal.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same thing that happened to Israel happened to Ukraine. Russians have slaughtered whole towns in Ukraine. Zelensky is simply being empathetic.

[–] neptune@dmv.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This sort of implies Ukraine is an apartheid state carelessly starving and stealing from Russians for decades.

Yes the victims of the recent attack deserve sympathy, but this is not a blank check for a continued genocide against Gaza or other Palestinians.

They aren't really the same.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This sort of implies Ukraine is an apartheid state carelessly starving and stealing from Russians for decades.

If that's your take I think you're trying too hard,

[–] neptune@dmv.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trying too hard? To make sense of a complicated global issue? That's a bad thing?

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You really need to put a logic line between your thoughts and see if you connect things. Don't try to make things uneccsaily complicated.

[–] neptune@dmv.social 5 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry, but this is some serious mental gymnastics. "Don't try to hard but use logic to justify your emotions about supporting a war of choice."

No thanks.

[–] zazaserty@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

The irony. Not that I fully support Palestine over Israel. But this doesnt make much sense.

[–] Titan@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Goddamn, now I'm losing sympathy for Ukraine as well

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's politics. Newfound Allies have expectations. I highly doubt Zelenskyj really wants to get involved with Israels ever ongoing conflict at this point in time.

[–] Titan@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You always have a choice. And this doesn't excuse war crimes in my eyes.

The life of a Palestinian is not worth any less than a Ukrainian

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I'm just pointing out the most likely explanation.

But I have no doubt he's more concerned with own people and that if he wants to keep receiving aid for the war in Ukraine he has to "play ball."

It's a shitty situation to be in.

However I don't think he's going to divert any resources to Israel anytime soon, regardless of the sincerity of his statement. So at least there's that.

[–] liv@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Never has the "Just a moment..." snippet view been more apropos.