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And I installed Linux. And it’s awesome.

EDIT: yes, the GPU was a bit tilted. Fixed it now!

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[–] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I strongly disagree with the too much RAM hate. I have 32GB and run out. 64GB would be freedom to do whatever. That’s how computing should be.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

The correct amount of RAM is enough that you never, ever have to think about it no matter what you choose to do.

Ditto for storage.

32GB is "fine", but yes, I occasionally run into cases where it's not enough. Typically with VMs or CPU-based machine learning tasks that are too big to run on GPU. I'm not really into video editing but I assume that needs a ton as well.

[–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Lol i still have 16gb

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My server has 156GB RAM and I don’t think I’ll ever hit 8GB usage hahaha

[–] GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’ll boot faster if you take some out.

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[–] MrGeekman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

8GB

My server has 8GB of RAM and it rarely even gets up to 4GB of actual RAM usage.

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[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Curious, what tasks do you use that much RAM for?

[–] Perroboc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Totally overkill. I thought I would be running lots of containers and virtual machines, but really never seem to use more than 16gb total. And I didn’t set up a swap partition, neither.

[–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And I didn’t set up a swap partition, neither.

You should always use a swap partition for linux, even if you have more than "enough" memory. It just works better for a very very tiny loss of diskspace.

https://haydenjames.io/linux-performance-almost-always-add-swap-space/

[–] cole@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

it's nice to have in case you want to have bad computer hygiene and hibernate instead of shutting down

[–] dragnet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Swap space is good to have, but a swap file is more convenient than a swap partition

[–] Perroboc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Even if I disable hibernate and suspend?

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thank you, I wondered. I keep thinking I need to upgrade to 32GB from 16 but have get to run into a need other than the prices are pretty cheap these days

[–] Perroboc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you want to upgrade, get better speeds. AM5 Expo settings are quite stable nowadays, and the less RAM you have, the faster a cold boot is.

IMHO 16gb @ 8000 > 32gb @ 6000. I’m thinking of doing this in the future.

[–] Tibert@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not that sure about 16gb for gaming nowadays. Games are starting to explode in ram and vram usage. With windows on the side and plenty of other apps in the background, I was pretty close to the limit while running a vm with 16gb of memory on a 32gb ram setup, while running warframe (The game was using 5-5.5gb of memory).

Tho running Linux, can reduce that memory usage.

[–] Perroboc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I agree. 16 is enough, but 32 is safe. And 64 is too much!

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'll consider that, thank you!

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[–] Tibert@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't really need to upgrade. But for a new pc, 32gb is advised for anything gaming.

For other things like content creation or work with the computer other than basic computing, I don't really know. It would change depending on what someone needs to so with the computer.

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I haven't run into issues on my gaming rig with 16. If I was building new I'd get 32 for sure. But my old 10700k and 4090 seem to do just fine on 16. Even when running unoptimized emulation like early days with ToTK I hardly used more than 12.

I feel those days are ending soon though and will need more in the next year or so.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I've heard you can load and run windows 100% on ram. You should give that a shot. Just never fully shut down your PC.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

32GB for Windows, 8GB for the software to run all the different RGB, that leaves you with what, 24GB for gaming?

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[–] Caitlynn@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

For the Seconds chrome tab

[–] stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

VMs, containers, and running make -j (yep, that's right, -j without specifying the maximum number of parallel jobs)

[–] penguin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have 64 too and my usage breaks down to basically be 32 for windows, 32 for different VMs.

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's cool, what do you use your VMs for? We have them setup at work too split resources but I can't think of a personal reason to use a virtual machine.

[–] Hades595@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May just be the perspective, but man your GPU looks like it's sagging upwards

[–] Perroboc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, got that comment before, so I spent some time with a ruler and a screwdriver to make sure. here’s a new picture

It seems the case GPU support was a bit too high.

Thanks!

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The gpu looks tilted, did it not fit in the upper bracket?

[–] Perroboc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I double checked: it’s just the perspective of the photo

EDIT: I just finished reinstalling the card with a ruler in hand because I couldn’t take the thought out of my head lol. Spent 1 hour because I had to clear the CMOS after the cards reinstallation and first cold boot re-training memory, but now it’s technically aligned!

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

and a fractal torrent compact, good choice!

edit: or wait, is that the regular torrent? I can't tell

[–] Perroboc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Regular one!

[–] soshiny@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can it cook your food and wash the dishes too!?

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