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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] plz1@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now the house will be motionless other than maybe subcommittee meetings and such. Until the GOP nominates a new speaker. It only took 15 attempts last time...

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mostly likely replacement at this point is probably the Democrat Jeffries, assuming the dems are still united on that front. I don't know who of the gop would be able to swing the whole party at this point.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Highly unlikely.

Anyone with an R next to their name would be commiting political suicide to cross the isle like that.

We might see one of the more centrist Rs try to broker a power sharing deal if things get too bleak though since it's apparent the freedom caucus does not know what compromise or negotiation means.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It would be hilarious if McCarthy did it as an fu and then resigned lolol

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

They don't have to cross the isle, they just need to abstain.

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Democrats pop some popcorn; Republicans tear each other to shreds.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a libertarian, the last 7 years have been one big, depressing bowl of popcorn. I didn't agree with Obama on much, but he was at least a decent executive, but all these geriatrics in office just make me so frustrated.

My vote doesn't matter anyway because all of the positions I vote for end up going to the same party with at least 20% vote difference. So I mostly vote for the minority party if I think it'll be close, otherwise I vote for my state's mediocre libertarian candidates.

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wholeheartedly concur regarding the gerontocracy. I would support an age maximum of 65 for those running for office. If you are elected at 65 you can serve your term of office but after that you're done.

I would support an age maximum of 65

I can't agree there. I've seen 70+ yos that are more capable than 50+ year olds in handling complex tasks like policy negotiations and whatnot. So I think we should instead have an ability-based standard where you're removed if you're unfit for office, regardless of age. Perhaps that means psych evaluations by an independent org and presented to the judicial branch or some legislative committee for evaluation (I forget who has authority there).

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Nominate a center right speaker that some conservative blue dog Dems will vote for? That way bills are more centrist and more likely to get through a bipartisan Congress with less friction?

Nah. Let’s obstruct harder!

[–] zeusbottom@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

More of the same obstruction.

There’s nothing to celebrate, but we’re all doing it anyway.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And probably will be for the rest of this Congress. Unless the Fuckwit Caucus gets enough of a clue to not drag things out again.

[–] BobbyBandwidth@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Hahahhahahahhahahhahahahahaha

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 16 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Tuesday's rebellion was led by Representative Matt Gaetz, a far-right Republican from Florida and McCarthy antagonist who finally turned on the speaker after he on Saturday relied on Democratic votes to help pass a bill to avoid a partial government shutdown.

It was the latest moment of high drama in a year when the Republican-controlled House brought Washington to the brink of a catastrophic default on U.S. debt of $31.4 trillion and a partial government shutdown.

McCarthy had repeatedly angered Democrats in recent weeks, including by launching an impeachment inquiry into Biden and on Saturday by giving them little time to read a stopgap spending bill to avert a government shutdown that he needed their votes to pass.

In debate on the House floor, Gaetz and a handful of allies criticized McCarthy for relying on Democratic votes to pass temporary funding that headed off a partial government shutdown.

Representative Nancy Mace told reporters she voted to remove McCarthy as speaker because he broke promises to her on improving access to birth control and supporting a bill she wrote on rape kits.

McCarthy supporters have said Gaetz was motivated by a hunger for publicity, a chance to win higher office or resentment over an ongoing ethics probe into possible sexual misconduct and illicit drug use.


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[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine giving up the guy that took 15 rounds to pass. Who the fuck do they even have left?

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

No one ever accused them of having a plan for the future.

[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Didn’t expect it to happen so soon. Wow.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You fucking know they are going to nominate der Gopenfuhrer

[–] ZhaoYadang@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Or his preferred candidate. The GOP majority is too small for anyone to get elected speaker without his approval. He has enough sock puppets in the House to block anyone he doesn’t like. That’s why it took more than a dozen votes to confirm McCarthy, and why McCarthy was removed. Gaetz didn’t make that call himself.

The only way anyone else could become speaker is if a few Republicans did what’s best for the country and voted for Jeffries. But that ain’t happening.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

the Republican party is in complete disarray