Rapist cop disarmed, fired and jailed. JK
this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2023
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99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
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In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
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I get accusations are not the same as a conviction but he shouldn’t be on patrol until cleared.
Give him his pay and take away his firearms. That’s fair.
Now hold on.
Give him his pay for doing no work? Absolutely not.
Put him behind a desk and he can be a paper pusher until things are cleared up. That’s already leaps and bounds more generous than most people get.
If the allegations are true, that means we had a rapist interacting with the community and dealing with sensitive information.
He needs to be out of the department until cleared.
I’m explicitly suggesting he gets thrown into a place where he gets paid to do menial and meaningless work.
If this takes many months to clear up, and he is found guilty, he essentially got an extended paid vacation.
No way, paperwork is still important and could be manipulated, leave is the best course of action imo.
Also being in the office at all can cause problems for both his reputation (if ultimately found innocent) and how other people feel.
If the work is meaningless then it's just wasteful anyway and shouldn't be done in the first place. If the work is meaningful, it shouldn't be done by someone under investigation.
Then send him home without pay. Still better than most who would be fired on the spot.
Getting paid for an extended vacation when accused of wrongdoing is bullshit. Just because he’s a cop shouldn’t give him special treatment.
Why not change the way other professions handle it.
Make it better for everyone instead of dragging the rest down.
To add, the reason police have protections like this is because they have strong unions, the unions protect the workers. That is something that other jobs can also do, this isn't a law, it's a result of a negotiation.
The reason police forces can do this is because they are over funded with tax payer money. You think they actually pay attention to their bottom line? They literally buy military equipment with their surplus.
“Free paid vacation” is an extreme problem with police. You already said they are different, in that their work can be extremely sensitive. The stock boy at Walmart deals with… random items.
Cops don't have "better unions," they have criminal unions. They're not like other unions — much more powerful, protective of active criminals long as they have a badge — and deserve no support, no matter how pro-union anyone might be.
The root problem: Police are nearly worshipped in American society, to the point that not giving them everything they ask for is considered "weak on crime," and can cost the Mayor his/her job.
Pretending they're a union like other unions makes the problem worse.
I disagree. He would still have access to a firearm, powers of arrest and confidential information.
It could take years to clean up but he should be denied all access to police resources and power until he is cleared. It is the safe and smart thing to do.
So make him a janitor, or a crossing guard. There are a lot of tasks one can do for the city that don’t come with access or power beyond that of a normal citizen.
Allegedly