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[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So Red Bull now has the fastest and the slowest pit stop of the season (or ever).

[–] ABeeinSpace@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not ever. Bottas still holds that honor (2021 Monaco GP. One of the wheel nuts got stripped. Merc had to ship the car back to Brackley to get the wheel off)

[–] Claidheamh 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a retirement, he didn't rejoin. Perez did, so it counts as a pit stop.

[–] soviettaters@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

F1 still counts it as a pit stop in their media, even if it's unofficial.

[–] Claidheamh 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So is it a pit stop every time a car retires in the pit due to damage? Surely cars have taken longer to repair than removing a stripped wheel nut. It's only a pit stop if they get back to the race.

[–] damirK@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Gotta be ever. Such unique circumstances

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To say Perez is having a bad year is probably an understatement

[–] vsis@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

he is 2nd, but you're right.

[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

He needs to be 2nd even harder.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is pretty much meaningless. Believe me, Red Bull will be counting the times he's screwed up at the end of the year,

[–] Photographer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'd bet they've already counted them but won't say anything until march.

For now, Hamilton could catch him at this rate

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

He had a good year.. for about three months

[–] davetapley@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I wondered during the race: why were they allowed to put the car back on track after the 'retirement'?

Is there really no rule to stop that? Like could you conceivably crash, be brought back to the garage, repaired, get back in and rejoin the race? I guess there's little reason to (excepted in a contrived situation like this), but I'd always assumed that was not permitted.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as the driver and the car can get back to the pits on their own, I think yes. When crashing out you'd likely need external help to get back to the pit lane, so I'm pretty sure you'd be out for good then.

[–] davetapley@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I'd always assumed 'external help' would be the dealbreaker, but I checked the onboard and you can see they jack the car up on to the 'skateboard' to move it back in to the garage (00:37 on F1TV feed). Perhaps it's external powered help, I guess that would get around cars being pushed back by marshals too.

[–] TheYang@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

team can help. I think the "skateboard" is not considered different than the jacks, or even wheel guns for that matter. The Team is allowed to use tools on their vehicle during a pit-stop.

If marshals help, you're out.

[–] sanimalp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Long ago, they used to have spare cars for just such an occasion! My question is: if a safety car happened during his one lap, would we be required to watch checo unlap himself for 26 laps before going green?

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

RB said that part of the reason they held him back and had a discussion with the FIA about it, was to avoid that happening and impacting Max.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As long as you give the driver their gloves and steering wheel it's fine.

[–] PinkOwls@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Come on! Move!

[–] Photographer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Because the FIA just make it up as they go.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Well it used to be the case on purpose, given that they had third cars for the scenario of a crash. And then everyone simply forgot about how it was and wasnt covered by the rules, I guess.

[–] JCPhoenix@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Still doesn't beat Bottas' "pit stop" in 2021. Took like 5 days for them to get the wheel off. Had to bring the car back to the factory to take off the wheel nut!