Holy shit! The Speaker of the House might have to be bipartisan? What is this fuckery!?
this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2023
123 points (95.6% liked)
politics
19097 readers
3428 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
"Burn him as a witch!"
-Republicans, almost certainly
He turned me into a newt!
Already failed the DoD vote, so he's running out of options.
If he does go to the Democrats, he's screwed. If he doesn't he is still screwed.
Dude wanted this job too.....hahahahahaha!
It's funny. The last two gop speakers quit because trying to manage these goof balls is like pulling hairs off your nutsack.
McCarthy thought he could do it better than actual politically savy people..
He's a buffoon.
McCarthy thought he could do it better than actual politically savy people
I don’t know about that. I think he just wanted the job on his resume. A book deal or a job with a lobbying firm pays more to a former Speaker of the House than it does to some congressman from Bakersfield.
I mean, sure. But it also helps if you were an effective speaker.
Any lobbying firm hiring this speaker, who can't keep the house's business flowing, won't be able to do shit when he isn't speaker either.
Probably some truth to that, but also had an embarrassing nomination process, and had to give away way too much power.
Like, it's an impressive resume booster if you are a successful speaker of the house, or if you have enough sense to bow out at a reasonable time... but who gives a shit what is on his resume when the first thing you get when you google Kevin Mcarthy is the fact that he let one person write his death warrant as speaker, or the fact that he had 15 votes to get the gavel in the first place.
I legitimately think that he believes he was more political savy than someone like Paul Ryan, and I don't believe anyone in their right mind would agree with that.
You got it all wrong, he didn't want to do the job, he just wanted the title
You have to be stupid to try to herd modern Republicans.
Their mindset in every interaction is to tell you to go fuck yourself and work against you. It's why they can bitch and whine all day, but find governance to be a wholly foreign concept and appear surprised and confused when they catch that "in charge" car they've been chasing, and proceed to blame their out of power opposition when the wheels come off.
Let me guess.... Democrats will welcome him with open arms and not set up any stipulations or demand anything in return for their cooperation?
Senate Republicans are greatly overestimating McCarthy's ethics and sense
There will be consessions. Since he launched impeachment proceedings, it won't be easy. Any savy Speaker would have waited until the budget cleared.
He thought he could get the terrorists in his party to support him if he gave them what they demanded. They got their cookies, now they want the fucking milk.
In the immortal words of Shredder...."They're baaaabbbiiiesss!"
This whole term proves the case for pragmatic moderates over dogmatic extremists IMO, even if you agree with the extremists. If the Freedom Caucus could just compromise with moderates, they could pass a very conservative budget, and then negotiate with Senate Democrats from strength. Since they can't, the House can only pass things that House Democrats approve of, which will be much more moderate and the final compromise will be much more friendly to Democrats...because of these far-right Republicans.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Senate Republicans are predicting that Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) will need to reach out to House Democrats to get the votes to prevent a government shutdown at the end of next week.
Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), a member of the Appropriations Committee, voiced concern about the looming government funding deadline.
“I’m going to leave it up to him,” Graham said of McCarthy, adding, “The world is a very dangerous place, and we need to get our national defense infrastructure well funded to deter aggression.
The defense bill stalled in the House Tuesday after five conservatives joined Democrats to defeat the rule that was needed to pass the $826 billion measure.
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said the demands of the House Freedom Caucus, such as cutting discretionary spending levels outside the departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs by 8 percent, are unrealistic.
Another Republican senator who requested anonymity to discuss McCarthy’s inability to pass spending bills suggested that conservative rebels are taking unfair shots at the Speaker to undermine his leadership.
The original article contains 983 words, the summary contains 170 words. Saved 83%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!