I’d agree - given the choice between a 10x f/5 and a 5x f/2.8, I’m going with the fast lens every time.
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Meh I’d take the zoom range for sure. Depends on what you like to photograph. Long lenses are routinely north of f5, and they do just fine in reasonable light.
A fast lens is almost always beneficial. If you don’t need the shutter speed, you can drop the ISO for lower noise and better color. A long lens is only beneficial in certain situations, if you’re not shooting long it’s not helping.
That’s my rationale, at least.
Yeah that’s fair, and I suppose there are also probably pretty significant limitations to iso performance because of the very very small sensor.
That said, I’m not scared of high iso (in fact I quite like it) and if we’re talking about telephoto lenses, I’d take a light long lens over a heavy fast one any day of the week but hey. I get upset when I see a nice bird and don’t have a camera on me. Majority of folks will probably be happier with a decent fastish portrait lens, so I guess Apple made the right call from a ‘selling iPhones’ perspective. I’d still like a bit of extra reach even if the lens is a bit on the slow side.
I mean, the only reason I hardly ever use 10x zoom is that it looks like a shitty impressionist painting. If optical zoom made it look better, I would use it often.
It looks awful on devices that have optical zoom, too. There isn't enough light for computational photography to bail out the shitty physics of any of them.
Seriously, getting something serviceable out of 1x on a bright day out of that little tiny sensor and lens already takes a boatload of math. The input data isn't good.
Exactly, Apple is comparing, er... bananas and kumquats.
Digital zoom is trash and nobody wants it. It is not an indicator of any lack of interest in OPTICAL zoom.
Literally took picture of my cat seconds ago before reading this post at 10x because I didn't want to stand up
I think there’s value in providing 10x even apart from photography. I think 10x would also open up for capabilities beyond just simple everyday photography.
That said if the aperture suffers, then that’s a good enough reason to avoid it for now.
Never mind zoom, I wish they would fix the lens flare issues with bright lights, my previous Samsung phones did a better job in that regard
Apple: We don't innovate, we force compromise.
Yeah! Who needs to believe in science or physics!? I wanna hate what I wanna hate!!
Why study when you can plagiarize?!
A 10x lens would be so tight that it would be useless most of the time, even for fusion. We either need an additional 70mm equivalent lens or a proper mechanical zoom lens before we can justify a good telephoto zoom.