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Starfields is one of the biggest games of 2023 – but it’s joined other recent games like Baldurs Gate 3 in being boycotted by conservatives because of the way it interacts with gender.

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[–] Kjatten@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Conservatives when basic linguistic morphology groups are present in the language of any given media.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You can be whoever you want in Balders gate 3 (genitals included) yet Starfield crosses the line?

[–] Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbf most conservatives probably haven't played BG3 or know much of anything about it/forgotten realms. They aren't exactly the target audience

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't really interested in Starfield...until now. Let's play Starfield.

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[–] Vrijgezelopkamers@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can go as cis-conservative as you want with your pronouns in the game. No-one is forcing those conservatives to give in to their innermost desires.

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The temptation is sinful to them in the same way that their murders and violence are righteous.

They don't realize the God they worship is Mammon.

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I don't know any conservatives irl who have complained about this, has anybody actually met someone who said that to you in person?

This just feels like people are trying to make something out of nothing to stay relevant

[–] jayrodtheoldbod@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Media coverage has gotten real lazy and sloppy, so they're pretty much pulling their stories from Twitter now. "Conservatives" could be like 100 people, max. Obviously it's whatever gets clicks, and hey, here's somebody from Lemmy, driving traffic to the site for free.

Starfield has been a real experience from the outside. My stepfather started playing it religiously (Xbox) as soon as it came out. I get the very strong impression that he's not alone. Much sleep has been lost over the newest Bethesda game. It looks like a hit for ol Todd.

So the actual players are too busy playing the game to be part of this conversation. That leaves people with no real involvement to be responsible for all this jabberjawing.

Complaints about the game not being good enough are pretty much not real, and are coming from people who aren't playing it.

This "conservative backlash" is legit fake news, and is probably a handful of nobodies on X pissing and whining about it performatively while some useless journo fills up his quota acting like it's a story.

It's a Bethesda game, and they really aren't known for pushing a lot of political boundaries, even things like the Fallout series ultimately boil down to "nuclear war bad" as a political statement. Edgy. I don't think there's much to talk about with Starfield other than the game having the very broad character creator with lots of options that people have come to expect from a modern RPG. There's nothing here.

Blue hair and pronouns? Sir, you could be a lizard in Skyrim.

Ultimately it just kinda shines a light on how bad things have gotten, lately, and how much journalism is pure filler, probably written by ChatGPT now. None of this is happening. There's no story here. That's the "real experience" I'm on about. This game isn't terribly controversial in any meaningful way, so it's very glaring how much babble is going out there trying to MAKE a controversy where the subject just refuses to support any of that.

Except for the poor optimization turning everyone's 3080 into a lump and making even the newest GPU struggle, even though the game is not throwing anything at the screen to justify all that. That controversy has some real heat to it, I'll admit. Anything else is trash noise to be ignored.

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[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

My impetus for posting it was seeing someone on lemmy posting links to where to get the mod to remove the pronouns from Starfield because Nexus Mods won’t host it. They posted to two gaming communities, and both had about a 2:3 like to dislike ratio as of last night - meaning a lot more people were quietly liking getting those links but weren’t saying anything in the dumpster fire comments sections. It was still on my mind when I saw this article right after I went over to Mastodon to check my feed there. So yeah, not in person, but these folks really are out there.

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[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

thats has the same energy as the people who think pretty much anything can turn someone gay

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[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like this whole pronouns in starfield thing is actually astroturf to draw attention away from Bethesda being evil and abusive to trans people who worked for them. Plus it drowns out any news about the game's actual qualities or merits, which like all Bethesda games at launch, seems to be lacking.

There's so many reasons to be actually mad at so many things, and all this culture war bullshit is deliberate smoke to keep people running in circles.

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[–] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This will pair eell with their botcott of reality.

[–] Kahlenar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

But wouldn't it be great it they did? I could start playing games online again.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I just wish it was a better game they were cutting off their nose to spite their face with.

[–] Shush@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Oh no!

Anyway...

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's a single prompt during character creation. The default option is always cisgendered. Literally 30 seconds or less and you never have to think about it ever again. In fact, you can ignore it entirely and it'll have been as if it was never there. Woooow such controversy.

I refuse to believe anybody is actually dumb enough to boycott the game over this. There are plenty of fucking legitimate reasons to not buy it, but having the option to select alternative pronouns during character creation is not one of them.

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