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Developers of indie puzzle game Orgynizer have claimed that Unity said organisations like Planned Parenthood are "not valid charities" and are instead "political groups."

In a blog post, the EU-based developer LizardFactory said the plans to charge developers up to $0.20 per install if they reach certain thresholds would cost them "around 30% of the funds we have gathered and already sent to charity."

As Unity clarified the runtime fee will not apply to charity games, LizardFactory reached out to the company to clarify their game would be exempt from the plan.

However, Unity reportedly said their partners were not "valid charities" and were viewed as "political groups."

Profits made from the game go directly to non-profit organisation Planned Parenthood and C.S. Mott Children's Hospital, Michigan.

"We did this to raise money for a good cause, not to line the coffers of greedy scumbags," the developers wrote in a blog post. "We have been solid Unity fanboys for over ten years, but the trust is scattered all over the floor."

The developers are considering a move to open-source game engine Godot, "but we will have to recode our entire game because we refuse to give you a dime," they wrote. "This is a mafia-style shakedown, nothing more, nothing less."

Today, Unity responded to the ongoing backlash and apologised, acknowledging the "confusion and angst" surrounding the runtime fee policy.

The company has promised that changes to the policy will be shared in "a couple of days."

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[–] LegionEris@feddit.nl 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Calling Planned Parenthood a political group is just telling on yourself. You hate women's bodily autonomy and/or trans people enough to overlook the fact that they offer free and income cost adjusted birth control and vasectomies and hysterectomies and fertility treatments. They are a non-profit organization offering every type of sexual and reproductive health care. They, in fact, do not engage in politically driven discrimination against certain types of sexual health issues. They treat those trying to get pregnant with the same level of evidence based care as those seeking abortion or hrt or to be made infertile, without concern for public opinion or political discourse. I assume all of the above can be said of the children's hospital mentioned, but I don't have an ongoing relationship with them to base my comments on..

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Unity management doing an mega-asshole speedrun or what?

[–] WagesOf@artemis.camp 22 points 1 year ago

The 2020s hot new business practice is self immolation through hypercapitalist greed and assuming that just because you're the most popular in an industry you're the only choice.

I guess the vulture capitalism has turned inward.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago

More CEO crying for "why isn't line going up quicker?!? make more now!"

[–] TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, look at the eyes of the CEO - if he was featured in a Unity game, he'd have "DEAD INSIDE" painted on him in indie developer blood.

[–] Jimbo@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago

Holy shit those eyes

[–] sculd@beehaw.org 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At this point? Fuck Unity!

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes even if they backpedal no one knows if they don't try something again in the future. So everyone who can switch to a different engine should do so.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trust is broken now. If they can just drop a new charge like this when ever they want how can you possibly plan a business around it.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After all this would there really be any reason to use them especially when Unreal has just been crushing it lately with lumen, nanite, etc.

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

I've used unreal professionally for 10 years. It's not very good for smaller teams. There is plenty of reason to pick another engine over it. Unreal is great for medium to large studios. 15 people or more. It can absolutely be used with less but the pain of doing so it's more apparent.

Also before this whole unity fee change, unity was cheaper than unreal. Although I've always skipped over it because I want source access.

[–] AntBas@eslemmy.es 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ag_roberston_author@beehaw.org 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was 2000 shares, he's already sold like 50k in the last year. Nothing sinister about it.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Devs may as well bite the bullet & switch engines mid development now, because I'm not buying any new games made in Unity.

[–] S13Ni@lemmy.studio 1 points 1 year ago

Some people might be 80% done with the game, making it not doable to remake the game.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unreal about to have a really good October.

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay. I was already annoyed, but now I’m like “seriously, fuck these people.” I hope Unity is driven out of business.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn't sound like a great outcome: one less game engine in the market, developers having to change all their codes, tons of layoff, c-suites finding a new job like nothing happened.

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it’s far from great, but it’s better than allowing shenanigans like this to become the norm - and they will become the norm unless Unity pays severely.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Then I'd rather wish for the execs to be fired and replaced. They are the ones making those decisions that should pay for it.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Eh it's okay. I mean it evens out considering Unity's no longer a valid gamibg engine..