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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Officer Daniel Auderer said the city of Seattle should just "write a check" to the family of killed 23-year-old.


A Seattle police officer has been caught on bodycam footage laughing at and making fun of the death of a young woman who was struck and killed by a cop responding to a call in his cruiser. In the two-minute-long video, reported on by The New York Post, we can hear Officer Daniel Auderer — who serves as the Seattle Police Guild’s Vice President — saying the dead 23-year-old grad student had “limited value” and the city should “just write a check.”

The footage takes place in Auderer’s police cruiser as he drives around city streets and discusses the wreck involving Jaahnavi Kandula over the phone with an unknown person whom we never hear. Kandula was struck and killed by his colleague, Officer Kevin Dave, in late January of this year.


read more: https://jalopnik.com/officer-caught-laughing-at-grad-student-killed-by-cop-1850830548

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[–] Fhek@lemm.ee 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“She was 26 anyway, had limited value. Huehuehue”

PIECE. OF. SHIT.

[–] MisterMcBolt@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Who even talks like that?!

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comic book villains, and American cops.

[–] BilboSwaggins@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@DougHolland
Can we make that a new community? Cop or comic villain?

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Kinda got my hands full here :) but I'd subscribe!

[–] ElleChaise@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

I'll screen that: a narcissistic psychopath talks like that.

[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago

"The kid was a baby. She was barely loved"

"She was old and barley had any time left"

"She was a mom. The kid will grow up remembering her in her best years"

They just make up shit.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember that nothing will happen to him...

[–] 3ntranced@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Nothing by a law agency, but his name is now out there and Americans are nearing a breaking point.

Only a matter of time.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I cannot advocate violence, but this is one turbulent priest. So to speak.

[–] willnever_fadeaway@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Sounds like this guy has more "limited value", maybe we should get rid of him instead?

[–] norbert@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

"I wonder if these mens daughters or granddaughters have value."

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Where cops brazenly talk and act this way we have corporate manslaughter We need to call out and root out these people to even start making a dent in that cultural behaviour

[–] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There was some deeply downvoted comment on this in a post yesterday, and I initially was like “wtf no” but this time I decided to click and really listen to the conversation. And now I think that downvoted commenter was onto something.

To paraphrase the statement that got downvoted: “This dialog sounds like an officer who, in a grim and traumatizing line of work, turns to dark humor to laugh instead of wanting to give up. This is common for medical workers too - they see so much of the worst moments in human life that their humor would crush & nauseate the rest of us. But humor is a way to share trauma and camaraderie.”

His tone clearly changes in response to some joke the other caller made. These statements sound every part of some dark bit he’s playing out with the caller.

If you believe it’s vile and unprofessional to make light of this situation (I do), that’s very valid.

But there are a lot of comments here acting like this person truly believes in the limited value of the victim or something. On some level, yea, police are problematically numb to the value of human lives. But I wouldn’t pretend this guy is celebrating the tragedy in this conversation.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a fan of gallows humor, enjoy cracking the joke that makes other people aghast, but my jokes (all modesty aside) would have some twisted element of humor, and the cop's cracks do not.

What's most striking to me is that no time had lapsed — his unfunny jokes weren't the next day or the next week, they came quite quickly after the wreck, where a young woman had been killed.

Can't find any benefit of the doubt. Officer Daniel Auderer's remarks reveal who Officer Daniel Auderer is. So does this earlier, better coverage.

[–] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

It was the same night??? :( Nevermind.