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[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 109 points 1 year ago (3 children)

hahahahah i'd like to see that nazi fuck try, see him wade through discovery, the ADL was built for this shit, it's their very reason for being

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

He prefers to tilt at specially made windmills with sharpened fans.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Please don't call Elon Musk a Nazi it's kind of offensive to Nazi's, and only half true.

Elon Musk is a pedophile Nazi, taking half the description away, almost makes him look nice.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

The thing is the added complexity that the plaintiff is adding is just going to extend out the entire process. The filing indicates something like a 60% loss of ad revenue. Even if the case runs smooth as butter, there's no way Musk can get access to the money he's seeking in time to cover the massive loss plus the huge debt obligations he's sacked the company with already.

There's zero ways restitution from this case would ever give the company enough head above water quick enough to prevent drowning in debt.

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Elon Musk said Monday that X, formerly known as Twitter, has “no choice” but to file a defamation lawsuit against the Anti-Defamation League amid an ongoing slump in advertising revenue.

“Based on what we’ve heard from advertisers, ADL seems to be responsible for most of our revenue loss,” Musk wrote on Monday. “Giving them maximum benefit of the doubt, I don’t see any scenario where they’re responsible for less than 10% of the value destruction, so ~$4 billion.”

How to avoid being antisemitic, step one: Don't blame your incompetence and piss poor judgement on "the Jews."

Elon Musk: D'oh!

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

So - Twitter has lost $40 billion in advertising revenue?

Sounds about right. Wonder how much more they can lose.

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[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For context, this all started Thursday when the ADL xeeted that is had a "frank and productive" conversation with X's CEO. She replied with some warm and fuzzy PR bullshit about working together to improve the platform blah blah blah. But the right wing nutjobs weren't happy with the implication that X was in anyway cooperating with the ADL and there was immediate backlash. "Ban the ADL" became a trending hashtag, because, according to the racist majority on X, the ADL is the actual hate group and they pressure advertisers who in turn pressure platforms to "ban free speech." Musk, always quick to undermine the sad sack holding the title "CEO" jumped on that bandwagon and been xeeting about it all weekend, threatening to ban them, generally talking trash, and now threatening to sue.

I find it depressing that I'm aware of all this.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (8 children)

they pressure advertisers who in turn pressure platforms to “ban free speech.”

This argument of theirs is so strange. Don't advertisers too have free speech? Is the right wing arguing that advertisers shouldn't be allowed to choose to stop advertising with Twitter? What "pressure" can ADL put on them? Does the ADL have legal authority to force advertisers to exit Twitter? No. Is the ADL holding private information about the CEOs of advertisers and extorting the advertisers to leave? Not likely.

Is the ADL communicating a position that the majority of the advertiser's customers find the racist, fascist, and misogynistic content now omnipresent on Twitter distasteful, and therefore harmful to the advertisers' brands and with negative impacts to future sales? Likely yes, but those statements are themselves free speech on the part of the ADL.

What the right wing seems to be arguing is that the definition of free speech should be the right to say whatever racist, fascist, and misogynistic comments they like without anyone making choices of their own to dissociate with the right wing. That's not free speech that's....fascism!

[–] neptune@dmv.social 7 points 1 year ago

Honestly? Musk might be so used to big business wining in court that he thinks they might just reflexively take his side.

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's hard to take that seriously when you use "xeeted".

[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

The whole website needs to be xeeted out of xistence at this point.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I call them x-cretions. So you x-crete them.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I almost feel bad for the new "CEO". It really seems like she's doing her best to give the impression that Twitter is still a sane company with reasonable business practices, only for Elon to completely disregard her messaging and do the exact opposite.

[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would feel bad if it wasn't obvious that Musk would do this. It is impossible for him to control himself. He can't help to put his dumbass opinion in the mix, no matter how much it hurts him personally and professionally. It's the reason he was forced to buy Twitter in the first place.

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Drop me in her seat for 7 figures with a nice kick-out clause (no stock, please) and I’ll pretend Xitter is a wholesome, thoughtful, productive corporate citizen, too.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

She's doing exactly what she was hired to do.

[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a shitty position to be in so I almost feel bad as well, except literally everyone knew this was going to happen when she joined. But I doubt she thought, "What's the worst that could happen? I have a bland conversation with the ADL, and Musk spends the weekend retweeting self deacribed antisemites and threatening to ban/sue the ADL?"

She is scheduled to be at the Code Conference hosted by the Verge/Vox at the end of September. I'm really interested in how she answers when asked about being undermined, especially now that the undermining has taken the form of her boss just being an outright antisemite.

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[–] markr@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

she's a 'ceo' like the barista at starbucks is a 'manager'.

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[–] geekworking@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the oldest most experienced groups at litigation against hate and defamation will have a field day with this. I would not be surprised to see X owing the ADL damages if Musk actually follows through.

This is as nearsighted as DeSantis starting legal battle with Disney.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

This is as nearsighted as DeSantis starting legal battle with Disney.

I'm so for it

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Shut up Elon, you unfuckable, racist, dork.

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[–] asunaspersonalasst@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lmao cry about it, Mr Melon.

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[–] markr@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (8 children)

"You made me do it"! yells the abuser. This ~~utter fucknut~~ psychopathic narcissist can't possibly consider that the lost ad revenue has anything to do with his turning twitter into 4chan.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago

Why does he hate free speech so much?

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He is remarkably bad at running a business for a billionaire.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That’s because he’s not and never was a businessman. He’s a tech guy who got super lucky and became filthy rich. Musk builds and designs shit, he doesn’t know squat about running a company. He should stick to playing with his rockets and making new roadsters. This whole CEO foray has turned out real bad.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

He’s a tech guy who got super lucky and became filthy rich.

Not even that...

He was (at best) an average coder decades ago who used family money to buy lots of startups and a few made a lot of money.

He was a gambler, not a businessman. It's just when you start out wealthy you can keep buying lottery tickets till you win. It doesn't even mean he was good at picking lottery numbers, he could just afford to buy more tickets than other people.

Musk builds and designs shit,

And definitely not that

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And definitely not that.

Um, have you seen the Cybertruck? I think this is the first design that Elon actually had a hand in and it shows. What a monstrosity.

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[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Not mine but... Entrepreneurship is like one of those carnival games where you throw darts or something. Middle class kids can afford one throw. Most miss. A few hit the target and get a small prize. A very few hit the center bullseye and get a bigger prize. Rags to riches! The American Dream lives on.

Rich kids can afford many throws. If they want to, they can try over and over and over again until they hit something and feel good about themselves. Some keep going until they hit the center bullseye, then they give speeches or write blog posts about "meritocracy" and the salutary effects of hard work.

Poor kids aren't visiting the carnival. They're the ones working it.

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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He's not even a tech guy. He inherited his money, and then lucked into a couple jobs with actual tech guys that he could take the credit for. His entire career has been built around buying other tech companies that were just taking off, pushing the original founders out, and then taking credit for everything everyone else did.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

He literally went to court to legally make himself a founder of Tesla even though he had nothing to do with founding the company. Such a petty little baby.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

... lucked into a couple jobs ...

Strongarmed his way into other people's success, then slapped his name on it and claimed it as his own.

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Musk builds and designs shit

Does he though?

Musk attaches his name to things others have built and designed.

[–] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He wishes he was a tech guy. He just piggybacks off of everyone else. He's a leech, a parasite.

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[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As surprising as it may sound, most billionaires do not arrive there through competence. They get there by way of inheritance and privilege.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's like one step away from claiming the Jews control the world's money supply.

[–] HipPriest@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm actually surprised he's not crossed that bridge. I do find it interesting to have a billionaire that doesn't even bother to pay lip service to being a civil human being but is just a massive racist tool.

But you know what if he met these people irl he'd get along fine with them I bet and there wouldn't be these unhinged outbursts. He's a complete paper tiger suffering a case of being terminally online because he thinks it's his job (it isn't).

Maybe he's taking something either prescribed or recreationally that has him perpetually on a knife edge like this.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't Elon bring this on himself by keeping the Nazis though ?

[–] muse@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Not even keeping, explicitly adding them back and unbanning them, and letting them make decisions to ban leftists who spoke out against it (andy ngo recommending people to the chopping block comes to mind)

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

What a fucking loser.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

He’s suing the anti-defamation league for… defamation. Is this a YouTube prank?

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

That's not very free market of you bro.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] blazera@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (21 children)

gotta love America where not making as much money as you wanted is a crime

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