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Donald Trump fraudulently inflated his net worth by as much as $2.2 billion per year, New York officials said in court filings unsealed Wednesday ahead of his upcoming civil fraud trial.

The new estimates came in filings from the New York state attorney general’s office, which is suing Trump, some of his adult children and his business empire for falsifying his net worth in an effort to obtain favorable terms from banks and insurance companies. The trial is set to begin Oct. 2.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 140 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This certainly explains why he needs broke ass dumbasses to pay his legal fees for him.

So much winning!

[–] 0110010001100010@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love the poorly educated!

-Trump in 2016

There is a reason the GQP it trying to dismantle the education system in the US...

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh absolutely. ironically, he's just as dumb as his constituents.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Professor Kelley told me 100 times over three decades that “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.” I remember his emphasis and inflection — it went like this — “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.” Dr. Kelley told me this after Trump had become a celebrity but long before he was considered a political figure. Dr. Kelley often referred to Trump’s arrogance when he told of this — that Trump came to Wharton thinking he already knew everything.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/12/1705902/-Former-Wharton-Professor-Donald-Trump-Is-the-Dumbest-Goddam-Student-I-Ever-Had

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Explains his having to get a bail bond, L, O, Fucking L.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is there anything that Trump doesn’t fraudulently inflate about himself?

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 57 points 1 year ago
[–] spider@aussie.zone 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Id heard he lied or whatever but 215? Shouldn't he at least make it believable? Like pretend there's muscle under there or something.

[–] nutlink@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently we're suppose to believe he's an inch taller but 10lbs lighter than Patrick Mahomes of the Kansas City Chiefs.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Lmao damn, there's some perspective

[–] spider@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[–] Amazed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] ButtholeSpiders@startrek.website 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So if he claimed it was 2.5 billion, but is inflated by 2.2 billion, his net worth is more like 300 million?

[–] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In other words, substantially less than he inherited from his father.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

How dare you use woke math against him!

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

h, saying he falsely boosted it by between $812 million to $2.2 billion (or 17-39%) in each year from 2011 to 2021.

More like he's worth about 2.5B but he was telling banks he was worth 5.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Forbes counts 550m for truth.social, which is a ridiculously high valuation. The rest is mainly ties up in NY real estate, which is struggling. He's not poor by any means, but 2.5B is still a massive overvaluation most likely. Count his liabilities (1B in debts as of 2020) and I doubt he breaks a billion.

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's so leveraged and indebted to his Russian and Saudi overlords it's quite possible he's underwater

Thusly his motivation to peddle secret docs

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I feel like having someone indebted to foreign countries handling top secret documents is a national security issue, but what do I know I just make drawings.

[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NY real estate, which is struggling

Sorry, what did I miss? Isn't NY real estate the place where a 200sqft apartment costs millions of dollars?

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, so a couple of things make his portfolio worth less than you would think. To start, he doesn't own all of it outright, most of it is financed with debt and a large part of his portfolio is in commercial real estate, which is struggling to get back to pre-covid occupancy. Last but not least, he slaps his name on everything and many people do not want to be associated with him in any way, shape or form, so his luxury condos are also struggling with occupancy.

[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, thanks. I totally get the massive debts and his name being a liability (at least to the people who have enough money to buy what he's selling).

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need to know trump's actual net worth right before his first campaign launched.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm betting it isn't much higher than 50k

Seriously how did anyone think this guy was wealthy? I have a rat who has more business acumen than that idiot. That's been true since the apprentice days.

Wasn't there a guy once who managed to become a multi-millionaire by just claiming to already be a millionaire and getting favourable bank loans?

Why are the banks not checking this shit. What's the point in them.

[–] anonono@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm betting it isn't much higher than 50k

lol if you hate the guy you could just go with negative numbers instead.

it's not uncommon for rich people to go into the negative millions when their investments go belly up.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Any chance that some of the lenders might sue him as well, for falsifying his application?

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Everything trump does is done fraudulently. Because he’s a fraud.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

Isn't this what Anna Sorokin went to jail for?

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago
[–] donuts@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More indictments on the way?

[–] _Sc00ter@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a civil case, so no

[–] donuts@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Sure but is financial fraud not a crime? Why not charge him criminally if he has been demonstrably fraudulent? I'm not a lawyer and I guess I don't really understand.

[–] Backspacecentury@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

To the surprise of no one.