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[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

"SUVs" in a lot of cases are just raised hatchbacks on what are essentially regular ol' car platforms; nobody's going off-roading in a dang CR-V.

(that doesn't do any favors for their fuel efficiency though)

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SUVs of their car counterparts drive like shit. Sure the Porche SUV drives nice, but the 911 drives wayyyy better. I'd take a wagon over an suv and just use snow tires when needed.

It's been tested that an suv with regular tires and AWD can't perform as well as a 2WD version with snow tires. With All seasons the snow performance is marginally better than snow tires.

https://youtu.be/atayHQYqA3g?si=7bnIVKH0EMno8Ahl

[–] kingludd@lemmy.basedcount.com 2 points 1 year ago

Stationwagons are definitely underrated.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Thats a more recent trend, SUVs used to be more like suburbans and escalades, basically trucks with seats retrofitted into the bed area.

[–] ninjakitty7@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the word for that is a “crossover”. Is there actually a smaller version of the CRV frame?

[–] cdrwil@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

IIRC the accord is on the same frame as the CRV. At least thats what I heard about the current generation

[–] schmorpel 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I cannot express with words how much I hate those bloody space-wasting useless vehicles.

They deserve to be keyed, wheat-pasted with tiny dicks, pissed on and ridiculed in every possible way.

They cause a mess on every parking lot in Europe now that were built for reasonably sized cars - cars that carry up to 5 people perfectly well.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I seriously judge anyone driving one of those dangerous, polluting pieces of trash. Fuck you SUV drivers.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

6% YOY increase in pedestrian deaths since 2008 coincides with an almost exact same YOY increase in the marketshare of trucks and SUVs

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Far before that... check out the cars of the 60s and 70s. More stylish, but just as impractical, inefficient and deadly.

[–] HaiZhung@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SUVs are more deadly than cars in about every conceivable metric.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mainly to people in other vehicles.

Check out cars from the 60s and 70s that didn’t even have seat belts, certainly not airbags, or body segments made to crumple and absorb impacts.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, I disagree with the premise of this meme that things were better before, they weren't. But nowadays you do have options and we have better awareness so if you're still making those dumb decisions like buying SUVs, that's worse in a sense.

[–] kingludd@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 points 1 year ago

Ah not far enough back for you, huh? More of a returntofish kinda person are you?

[–] DoctorNope@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Good nuts: Macadamia Pea Gorilla

Bad: Truck

[–] iwasgodonce@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And almost none of them have hitches, so you can't even tow with them. Such a waste.

[–] kingludd@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe you can make a pickup with an acetylene torch and a welder.

[–] NightLily@lemmy.basedcount.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not enough discretion in deciding what is an SUV in my humble opinion.

[–] kingludd@lemmy.basedcount.com 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's like porn; you know it when you see it?

[–] HaiZhung@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The distinction is really not difficult. And I’ll tell you why: if a car manufacturer classifies a vehicle as an SUV, they can skirt around safety and pollution regulations.

That’s why they are everywhere.

[–] InvaderSkooge@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

That's exactly it. They got marketed like crazy right before tougher emissions regulations came in around 2008 because they are classified as trucks and not cars. Anyone know if the truck emissions ever got restricted any after that time frame?

[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 2 points 1 year ago

Now this makes me think of the unusual correlation between the target audience of this community and !fuckcars@lemmy.world

[–] LilPappyWigwam@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Teacher seeks pupil. Must have an earnest desire to save the world. Apply in person." - [Some Gorilla ](http://www.Ishmael.com/ https://g.co/kgs/aHTigs)

[–] kingludd@lemmy.basedcount.com 2 points 1 year ago

Good point. They often have solutions that seem to me to be as bad as the problem. But at least they're thinking things through.