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Ukrainian forces have carried out their most complex and ambitious operations to date against Russian military facilities in the occupied region of Crimea, officials in Kyiv have said.

Special forces landed on the western shore of Crimea, near the settlements of Olenivka and Mayak, in a joint operation with the country’s Navy, according to Ukrainian Defense Intelligence.

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[–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is really only a raid, Ukraine has no ability to supply troops by sea, nor the ability to even land enough troops to hold territory.

But the fact that they did this means that Russian "rear" area security is absolute shit, and they have the option to improve that (taking forces from reserves or the fromt) or suffer more rear area raids.

[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, this kind of thing is usually done for propaganda value. It’s encouraging for your side to see that you can pull it off, and it is discouraging for their side to see that they have porous defense behind them. It’s rarely fun to have violent enemy action in your rear. The Doolittle Raid was a prime example of this kind of thing.

Although I understand the reasoning, it’s unfortunate that political agreements are forcing the Ukrainians to fight with one hand tied behind their backs.

[–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The Doolittle raid is the perfect example of a PR move, because it was insanely expensive and did very little. It cost 16 planes and their crews, and took very expensive ships out of the running for months. BUT despite doing basically no damage, made Japan bring 2 carriers away from Midway to take a couple of tiny islands to prevent bomber bases being built on them.

As far as we know, this basically took some RHIBs and troops on foot. Way less than the Doolittle Raid. Unfortunately it's likely we'll never know the effect this had, or how many of these raids take place.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But all the tankies say that Ukraine is losing ground?

[–] CMLVI@kbin.social 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This is a tactical retreat. Once the retreat is done, you'll see that while Russia has given up physical land, they'll have taken digital ownership of it via the smash-hit mobile game Atlas Earth, meaning Ukraine occupies the space, but Russia earns passive income from digital ownership.

Checkmate you dirty capitalist.

[–] AttackPanda@programming.dev 36 points 1 year ago

Russia will maintain digital NFT ownership of Crimea.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just wait until they run out of turns, though

[–] CMLVI@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

They're building up to a killer golden age

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ukraine has lost so much ground and retreated so far West that by this time next year the UA will be entering Vladivostok.

[–] BitingChaos@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Special forces landed on the western shore of Crimea, near the settlements of Olenivka and Mayak, in a joint operation with the country’s Navy, according to Ukrainian Defense Intelligence.

I hope Russia doesn't read CNN.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

If you get your military Intel from CNN you have already lost.

[–] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article mentions confrontation with Russian forces in Crimea, so nothing that can't be shared at this point.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it safe to assume Putin knows what's going on at the front?

[–] anteaters@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is actually somewhat debatable I guess. Someone in the military knows but does the truth survive the long, long chain of command until it reaches Putin?

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Grue (sp?) meme:

Panel 1: Boss invades Ukraine because reports said our military is 2nd best in world

Panel 2: Is not going so well because reports were lies and boss is shoot the messenger kind of guy.

Panel 3: We make plan of just lie. Boss is too paranoid to leave bunker except to flee to different bunker, so will never know truth.

Panel 4: Bunker gets CNN.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Grue (sp?)

The Despicable Me character in that meme is "Gru."

"Grue" is the monster in Zork that is likely to eat you if you linger in complete darkness. (Or reply to you if you ask questions about how to spell it.)

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I don't care what anyone else is saying, I think you're a good monster, Grue. Happy hunting!

[–] anteaters@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Heh I wonder if he would then convince himself that he would never be fooled by lying generals and that instead it is the evil West that is lying. Digging his hole even deeper.

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

I assume if it's being reported then it's because Russia knows already

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Between this and Pringles yesterday, NCD is going to be going bonkers

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pringles lmao. Guess he hit the can, rest in piss.

[–] tissek@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always called him Pirogi, but now I understand what an insult to that awesome food it is. Pringles it will be from here on.

Well, I always thought he looked like a potato. I think you can’t go wrong with either name.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Impressive if they can get a stronghold there.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

They have already left.

It was a hit and run thing.

[–] Xia@jlai.lu 6 points 1 year ago

Wooow that’s something !