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[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Do Australians have a choice? We in Canada have had to put up with American military bullshit while they've been looking at our Northwest Passage with suspiciously greedy eyes.

That's our fucking sea, go get your own.

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oof. That's a hot take. You know Alaska makes up part of that coastline, right? Basic geography, but you seem like you might take issue with that anyway.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not the relevant part of the Northwest Passage. Go away, US Psyops

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends what you mean. Our government has a very long standing relationship with the US, and it would probably be difficult to extricate ourselves from that in any meaningful way in the short term. Whether or not individual people have a choice - not really. I expect the majority of Australian's welcome the (perhaps illusionary) security afforded by our relationship with the US.

China has been at least a consumer of Australian produce if not an "ally", but they've shown a willingness to bully us economically over minor political disagreements. If a military relationship is a gateway to any sort of economic relationship with the US then it's probably a good thing. They already gave us submarine tech which will provide us some economic benefits as we manufacture them and sell to our allies.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

The US has shown a willingness to bully Canada in trade and ignore international consensus on topics like our softwood exports. The recent US-Canada trade war under the Trump administration has also hampered trade in what SHOULD BE one of the most coupled economies in the world.

A tightly-coupled economic relationship with the US is a double-edged sword when the whims of the country seem to flip-flop every 4 years.

[–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True I fucking hate how the US wants to be buddy buddy with us when they're actually fucking us over. I mean we have some of their worst traits here (especially one of them being the lobbying of a certain US "ally" influencing public opinion on it so that it's always seen as a good guy and a victim).

I just wish we could get rid of all of that and just let us be us.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I despise American culture but I'm not really aware of how they're fucking us over? (... but I may be naive to that I guess).

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

The NSA has been spying on German officials, the US government poured hundreds of billions of dollars on the F-35 project to stymie everyone else's domestic fighter programs, aggressively subsidizes American agriculture for export, and may arbitrarily institute aggressive tariffs that harm the economies of its allies.

[–] Haus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I saw an article earlier today about shutting down Diego Garcia. Doubt it'll happen anytime soon, but if they do, that stuff - and there's a lot of it - would probably move to Oz.

(Found the article on lemmy - https://startrek.website/post/1093559)