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[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Definitely Arch and Ubuntu.

[–] twei@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

what is overrated about them?

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Mint. Cinnamon is weird. I've had more problems and weird glitches with Cinnamon than any other DE. And it looks like it's straight out of 2004. That's why I'm a KDE junkie on KDE Neon now.

[–] valentino@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah Mint is really ancient, not shitting on the Devs but everybody is moving to Wayland. While they keep their old project that runs only because of nostalgia. Opensuse TW is better than Neon. The latter is used for testing dunno why people keep using it

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[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMHO NixOS, which is what I'm using (full disclosure), is heavily underrated. His subposition was based on an hour of use "a long time ago", which leads me to believe he doesn't fully grasp the versatility of NixOS - or rather the "nix package manager", which is more of a scriptable deployment tool.

What I can do with a dotfile and a single command equates to many more steps in any other given distros. I can recreate a system simply by running said dotfiles on another install, or indeed convert it to a VM image if I wanted to.

So it's like if you took ansible, the aur and added the ability to configure everything from services, packages, filesystems, modules, virtualization, kernel's, users, from a JSON-like dotfile consisting of booleans, arrays, strings and even functions.

It is however overtly complex, there's a disconnect between old nix ("stable") and new nix (flakes, "unstable", experimental but mainstream in the NixOS community) and the documentation needs work, which is what has been funded and is being worked on now.

Thought I'd just chime in, because this guy's take seems glib, uninformed and dismissive...

...though I agree in regards to elementary and solus though.

[–] Treeniks@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Last time I tried NixOS, I tried to get some newer and lesser known wayland window managers to work. After like an hour of trying to get a custom session option into gdm, I had to give up. The nix package manager is fantastic, truly, but NixOS imho alters the way the system works way too much. Either it supports whatever you're trying to do out of the box, then it's very nice, or you'll be in hell trying to map whatever explanations you find online to the clusterfuck that is NixOS's altered file structure. You don't simply add a .desktop file to the xsessions folder.

Whatever solutions to problems like these you build in NixOS are always meant to be beautiful and reproducible, but building such solutions is a lot of work. For a window manager that I only wanted to try for a couple days, way too much work. For a system that I don't intend to install on any other machine, probably not worth it.

I.e. NixOS trades initial time invested with beauty and future time invested. A solution in NixOS is more beautiful, and much quicker to reproduce on another machine, but it takes way more time to set up the first time around (e.g. just doing it as opposed to writing a script that does it). As someone that does a lot of experimenting with new setups, NixOS was frustrating as hell. But for someone that needs to frequently install the same system on multiple machines, it's a game changer no doubt.

[–] skyeye@fosstodon.org 8 points 1 year ago

@valentino I know Ubuntu is the meme answer but I’ve never been satisfied when I use it. On servers and desktops where I want stability, I find Debian to be much more reliable and straightforward. I had two Ubuntu pcs recently and the upgrade gui tool would just kill itself when trying to go to the next version so I had to look up the terminal option. And looking up packages only to find out I’m installing outdated snaps where the permissions get in the way

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fedora, in the sense that I often see it widely recommended, especially to new users.

It's not bad by any means, but it's a very opinionated distro that requires end users to install a bunch of additional repositories and packages just to make it useable for the average user.

It also still doesn't come with out-of-the-box system restore functionality that works well with btrfs even though it is the default filesystem, unlike OpenSUSE Tumbleweed.

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[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Gentoo. Gentoo users have pretty much supplanted Arch (btw) users in the "annoying poweruser" niche.

I agree with you a bit on Garuda, even as someone myself who uses it. I've had it break multiple times on me, I still use it mainly because it has all the stuff I like by default (and a cool dragon theme, which should be a requirement of all distros).

Other than that, I'm gonna be boring and say Ubuntu. Just a worse Debian.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 year ago

Nah, Gentoo has always appealed to annoying power users. Arch users have only recently joined us in that niche. 😉

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[–] eclipse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mint isn't a bad ditro its just overhyped for new users.

Nobara is very overrated. Comes with so much bloat apps and is confusing for new users. Don't understand why people recommended it.

It has some kernel tweaks and niche bug fixes for certain games but its just overrated.

Ubuntu is decent but definitely lost its touch over the years.

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[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago

"Overrated" is a very specific word here. Some of the distros he just talks about their users and not the distro itself. Confusingly, he also then ignores the users entirely for other distros. I went into this assuming it would be low effort content, but it went even lower and ended up being just a "what comes to my mind when I think of this distro" list, which doesn't seem very fair towards some of the distros (near the top of the list even!) that don't have real complaints weighed against them.

[–] atyaz@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whichever your favorite one is, that's the most overrated one

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[–] choroalp@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Manjaro Zorin Garuda Nobara. Any Gaming Oriented distro except SteamOS. These 3 especially feel overbloated

[–] Drito@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Mint works and you can recommend it, but it is a mess with its two versions. The "normal" version is based on Ubuntu, but Ubuntu is already an user friendly distro. Mint also has LMDE version, it makes more sense because directly based on a "rough" Debian, but it seems less popular.

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