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[–] quinten@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Please note that the official title of the article is:

Yevgeny Prigozhin: Wagner chief presumed dead after Russia plane crash.

Decided not to delete this post due to the many comments and discussions.

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[–] theprecursor@lemmy.ml 675 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Wow, I’ve been browsing Twitter, Reddit and Lemmy for the past few hours. I’m surprised to see such breaking news first in Lemmy instead of Twitter or Reddit.

Awesome! Hope the Fidiverse keeps on growing to become bigger than Reddit and Twitter.

[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 218 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Look at me

Lemmy is the frontpage of the internet now

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[–] Sami_Uso@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good point. Really good sign for users if we can get breaking news stories here like this.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Reddit hot sorts more by popular, so things take a long time to rise up.

Lemmy hot seems to be (too much) biased to new. Can be a bad thing because it looks like things don't get popular. They do but you don't see it by hot, you see it by top 12 hour.

[–] brockpriv@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 year ago

Early 2010s Reddit was so addicting, if there was something in the world it was on the front page in 15 minutes. I remember being excited to check on Reddit after waking up to see that was the event of the day.

After 2016 the algo was screwed up and it became a cesspool of reposts and news were late to show up.

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[–] Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world 310 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Who would have expected this? Surprised pikachu

But the only one who opposed Putin (with any military power) being dead isn't necessary a good thing (imho)

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 192 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah, but he was stripped of all of his power. Wagner group is being rolled into the state military. The opportunity for Wagner to push back and or give Putin the boot has passed.

And, this dude was also an evil corrupt piece of shit. If he overthrew Putin, Russia would’ve still been an authoritarian disinformation state.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He was a straight-up Neo-Nazi and named the group after Hitler's favorite composer. So yeah, he would have been infinitely worse than Putin... and that's saying something.

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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But the only one who opposed Putin (with any military power) being dead isn’t necessary a good thing (imho)

Replacing one dictator with another who has the support of something like the Wagner group would not have been good for anyone but the Wagner group.

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[–] sab@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

The most surprising thing here is that nine people were willing to get on a plane with Prigozhin. That's arguably much closer to actual suicide than any of the convenient window deaths that keep happening.

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[–] GeekFTW@kbin.social 172 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lotta windows in airplanes.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 174 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Tragically the plane crashed into a surface to air missile.

Edit: yeah, this is actually what happened, no subtlety here, damn.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 98 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Like, fucking literally.

"Crash" my ass, BBC, you say it got shot down in the article, how is that not a more accurate and sensational headline?

"Prigozhin got blown the fuck up, like everyone knew he would the moment he pussed out, the Nazi coward."

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[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Totally an accident of course

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[–] BadEngineering@kbin.social 154 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm honestly surprised that he lasted this long

[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 82 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like when the attempted coup fizzled out there was a Russia expert who predicted he's be dead within 90 days. Sounds like that guy was right.

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly didn't need to be a expert on Russia to predict that

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[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 140 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn I was hoping he would be able to cause more chaos inside Russia before Putin had him killed.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That window of opportunity closed. Wagner got folded into the state military.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 119 points 1 year ago (6 children)

No window is ever closed in russia

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[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 120 points 1 year ago (9 children)

One of the cardinal rules of power struggles is "If you're gonna shoot for the king, don't miss."

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Man didn't even miss, he just got scared halfway through

[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From what I gather, he backed down because all his top men's families were being threatened. Prigozhin's family was kept safe, of course, but I don't think they expected Russia to threaten the families of those further down the ladder.

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[–] BerryB1ue@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The guy wasn't stupid. He knew going against Putin meant death if he failed. At some point during his attempted coup, he realised it wasn't going to work and was faced with a choice: die now, or "back down" to scheme his way out of an almost certain death later. Turns out he couldn't. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠༼⁠ ⁠•́⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ⁠•̀⁠ ⁠༽⁠_⁠/⁠¯ Oh well, nothing of value was lost.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have nothing to add to your comment other than the fact that your text person clearly has a large nose and I think that's a stylistic choice and I appreciate that as someone who also has a large nose.

Oh, and fuck Putin.

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[–] brawleryukon@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Plane must have accidentally ran into a surface-to-air missile. Y'know, as you do.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (5 children)

To think he avoided drinking polonium tea and falling out of a window and self inflicted gunshot wound to the head for all this time just to die in a freak tragic accident.

[–] Corran1138@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reports are that Moscow's anti-air fired on the jet..... "accidentally."

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[–] gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

I wonder if there is a correlation between drop height and importance of the persons he's killing.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I’m so shocked right now. He didn’t fall out of a window?

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

I mean it's pretty similar to a really high window

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

World’s most expected accident victim.

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[–] kid4today@feddit.uk 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 64 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Kind of interesting to note how the United States deals with an attempted coup versus Russia.

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[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

Hey Putin! I heard Trump talking shit about you.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 57 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I think we all saw this coming.

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[–] 0Xero0@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He should have gone all the way when he started the mutiny against Putin. He would be dead either way but at least he had the chance to take Hitler's disciple with him to hell.

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[–] qnick@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Prigozhin allegedly had a massive influence on 2016 USA elections with his troll farms.

I don't think Kremlin gave up on the 2024 elections, it's just now they have Musk.

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[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A blind man could have seen that coming.

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[–] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The airplane itself mysteriously fell out of a window.

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[–] wabafee@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Checklist to become an accident in Russia.

  • Windows: checked✅
  • Heights: checked✅
  • Back: checked✅
  • Crony: checked✅
  • Potential adversary: checked✅
[–] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Selenskyj was right: Prigozhin will be dead after two months. And he isn't the only hardliner. I think within the last month six out of ten of the hardest hardliners fell out of the window. Or out of the sky.

Seems like Putin is currently liquidating the hardliners so there will be no negative feed back when he ends his "special operation" in a couple of weeks. Message at home will be: Wow, we did great, nobody objects and the world is in awe! And who disagrees will find an open window to jump through...

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[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Took longer than I expected. Hopefully the same thing happens to Putin next.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Buried the lede a bit with that title, considering the plane was actually shot down

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[–] CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Good.

He was a fucking dumbass piece of shit who deserves this for not following through on his coup.

This is not surprising at all lmao.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"What could have possibly caused this crash killing a totally insignificant and unimportant person?!" -RT

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[–] ChillPill@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

[Thick Russian accent]: Foolish man, should not have gotten on a private plane, bad reputation private planes have. Very unsafe in these parts. Oh well, accidents happen...

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