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For instance how can I use my *.domain.com SSL certs and NPM to route containers to a subdomain without exposing them? The main domain is exposed.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You need a DNS service that works with Let's encrypt

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 minutes ago

Then you're all set, issue certs over DNS-01 challenge in NPM, and create records in your local DNS server that point to the NPM IP for each domain you want to use.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I do exactly this with traefik.

ie: Seafile.domain.com

Vaultwarden.local.domain.com

I followed this guide: https://youtu.be/liV3c9m_OX8

[–] GoMati@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I recommend this one instead: https://youtu.be/n1vOfdz5Nm8

Same guy, just fresh version of Traefik 😁

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Split DNS on your LAN?

Only records permitted to be access on your LAN are responded by a local DNS server. While public DNS still available for your public facing services.

Your wildcard cert will work for both situations as the browser only cares the sni matches the Url in your address bar.

[–] bigdickdonkey@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago

I’m using this right now but I’m switching to having all my services under one domain and blocking non internal ips. Technically someone can access your site by providing the host manually, althought it’s unlikely since they would need to know it

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

You can use the DNS verification method. Either using nsupdate with bind or what ever protocol your DNS provider and favorite ACME (certbot, acme, lego, etc) utility supports. As long as your DNS server is publically reachable that will work, even if the subdomain itself doesn't exist publically.

[–] thumdinger@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is what I do as well. I have a public DNS record for my internal reverse proxy IP (no need to expose my public IP and associate it with my domain). I let NPM reach out to the DNS provider to complete verification challenge using an account token, NPM can then get a valid cert from Let’s Encrypt and nothing is exposed. All inbound traffic on 80/443 remains blocked as normal.

This is the way.

Vastly superior to local dns.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

This is specifically info about LetsEncrypt, not general SSL.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Yes my answer is for use with Let's Encrypt.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't really understand what you're getting at. The answer to OPs question is to use letsencrypt like everyone else.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

They literally didn't mention LE at all.

SSL is not LetsEncrypt, if you didn't know.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 3 points 9 hours ago

To add: a lot of cert providers also offer ACME so while the primary user of ACME is LetsEncrypt, you can use the same tech and validations as LetsEncrypt on other vendors too.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 0 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

OP is asking for cases where you don't want to allow the service (or reverse proxy) to be accessible via the web.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

As I understand it, OP just wants to hide (=remove) the subdomains from the public URLs.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

public domain for internal services

I guess they need a CA then

https://smallstep.com/docs/step-ca/

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They do not. See my other reply about DNS verification.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Your response clearly states publicly accessible DNS. A CA does not require anything public for local SSL and can work in conjunction with whatever service they want for that which is public.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

Fair, I don't know why I read OPs post as asking for let's encrypt certs. Internal CA is indeed an option.

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 4 points 21 hours ago

I have that setup, my domain is hosted by OVh and they have an API that you can use to get a wildcard certificate with.

At home I run pihole and that has some sites in as local IPs, but if you look the same site up from OVH you would get an internet IP

[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago

How we've done it recently:

  1. Put domain on cloudflare or another registrar that supports an API. Generate a token with the right privs.
  2. Use certbot with the cloudflare plugin, and that token, and generate whatever certs you need within that domain using the DNS01 method.

No need to have port 80 open to the world, no need for a reverse proxy, no need for NAT rules to point it to the right machine, no need to even have DNS set up for the hostname. All of that BS is removed.

The token proves your authentication and LetsEncrypt will generate the certs.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

If you have wildcard certs, you just install them everywhere your services are running.

As far as redirects go, you just 302 redirect from one host to another.

Unless you're asking about resolving hosts on your internal network and public ones differently, which is a lot more complicated than you probably want to deal with if you're already kind of lost. Just setup a VPN to your internal network and be done with it. Otherwise setup a local DNS resolver to bridge your public DNS and local requests.