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Prosecutors highlighted “about $10,000 — $8,000 in U.S. dollars and then $2,000 in foreign currency that was found on his person,” CNN correspondent Danny Freeman said following the court hearing.

“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.

After prosecutors made the claims, Mangione said he would like to “correct two things.”

“I don’t know where any of that money came from — I’m not sure if it was planted. And also, that bag was waterproof, so I don’t know about criminal sophistication,” the suspect said in a statement that suggested police framed him.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago (6 children)

My ez-pass transponder came with a faraday bag - clearly ez-pass is a criminal organization

A former employer handed out branded faraday phone and wallet bags as a tchotchke- I must have worked for organized crime.

Oh no, passport faraday bags are all over Amazon - clearly criminal and needs to be shut down

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 80 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Yeah, prosecutors are really trying to smear this guy to look dangerous. Try harder. An RF-blocking bag is just to prevent theft, hacking and protect privacy. I'm a bit confident he's the guy but I can't say beyond a reasonable doubt given the circumstances and how the police are incentivised to frame anyone.

Since news reports keep jumping around between a McDonald's customer and a McDonald's employee offering the tip, every inconsistency will only bolster this guy's case. I can make guesses that this guy wanted to get caught or was a little sloppy, but if he says otherwise then finding everything including the gun is a little suspicious. Get him the best lawyer in the biz, I'm sure crowdfunding will cover it many times over.

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[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago

He had Ill will against corporate America, nobody would have that unless they were the killer! Sick evidence coppers!

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The more they keep fuxking with the facts, the more this makes sense.

I just hope tomorrow a video alibi comes out of him jerking off on camera in Philly at 7am that Wednesday

The whole narrative will crumble and the working class will see what they really do to us.

[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Jerking off in front of a street camera at 7am on a Wednesday does sound like a Philly activity.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 58 points 1 week ago (15 children)

It makes perfect sense for this to be a frame up because one of the incriminating items was a "Recently Used Ghost Gun", a cheaply made 3D Printed gun that leaves no special marking on the bullet and can only really be used once. They are made to be used for crimes and discarded quickly, which is why some congressmen want to see restrictions on 3D Printers.

This raises an interesting question: How the fuck is he dumb enough not to dispose of the gun that was meant to be disposed? And has two answers: He's just that fucking stupid or The evidence was planted

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

What if you find shooter's backpack ditched in park with jacket, gun, silencer, and fake ID used at hostel, but say it only had a jacket and monopoly money. And say that the guy probably left the state on a bus. Now you can pretty much do anything you want with any plausible-looking guy in the country you want.

I'm just asking questions! Also, most of the bags and purses you see for sale these days have a "faraday" phone bag or pocket in them, no level of sophistication required.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Step 1 - Have an AI scrape social media looking for someone similar looking who has posted negative things about the insurance Industry.

Step 2 - sprinkle crack on them

Step 3 - ????

Step 4 - record breaking profits for health insurance corporations every year forever and ever and ever

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (12 children)

People who know this shit have been through Mangione’s social media feeds.

https://shatterzone.substack.com/p/alleged-ceo-shooter-luigi-mangione

The guy likely did it. The guy's social media history puts him right in that "potential mass shooter" territory, but one more radicalized by pain rather than the right-wing shitholes of the internet.

But the part no one's talking about yet are the copycats to come. Because this guy got attention for it. Accolades even. That's part of what mass shooters want. Attention. Accolades are a wet dream for them.

At least this will be better than when they were murdering children for the shock value.


So yeah, I think "Rich asshole murdered" will become more common. If only the richest asshole in whatever Podunk little town the mass shooter was from.

And yet, I can't say that it will be a completely bad thing. If the mass shootings must happen, (and America apparently says they must) then I'd rather it be a rich asshole who bites it than a classroom full of grade schoolers.

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[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I've got a Faraday bag and foreign currency as well lol

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 week ago (13 children)

This could be a scapegoat

But this could also be the perpetrator claiming he's a scapegoat, which is probably the best way to get a Jury to acquit, just plant doubts.

I'm gonna say that this is probably the actual perpetrator and I guess he was planning on more targets, but got caught before he could do more "deposing".

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
  • Likely wearing similar clothes to the widely circulated photographs. Otherwise how did anyone recognize him?
  • Still had his ghost gun and manifesto on him.
  • Cops asked him for an ID and he gave them the same fake New Jersey ID that had been widely reported as what he used to check into a hostel in NYC.

Where these just common mistakes? Made by the same person who succeeded at avoiding so many others? But if he was trying to turn himself in, getting arrested at McDonalds doesn't seem like the method I would have chosen. Was he trying for suicide by police?

I'm leaning on the side of a normal human 'on the run' and making normal mistakes. But there is enough to make me doubt that.

Also if they ever make a movie out of this, James Franco's brother Dave Franco has a passing resemblance.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

If the police did this, that’s not surprising, but they are really stupid.

This case is going to be under a microscope like an inverted OJ trial, and every bit of police misconduct is ammunition for his lawyers

Imagine the uproar if this guy gets away on a technicality… it would be a national celebration, lol.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If another ceo dies from someone who looks like the guy while this guy is locked up then its realy gonna make the system look corrupt

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (10 children)

His legal fundraiser has raised 27K in the space of a day. Free Luigi.

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[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 35 points 1 week ago (6 children)

So alls they got is a faraday bag, he likes playing computer games, and a recently used gun? Oh yeah…hundred percent this is the guy.

/s

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[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

Age 20-30, has a good bag to carry thier tech around day to day, dislikes american health insurance, and may be mentally unwell without proper diagnosis; Describes every college student I know.

If the more concrete evidence is you where within a few miles of the incident in NY, as well know NY is not a dense urban city....

It's all hard to say, rampant distrust of the police means, knowing they are desperate to pin it on anyone, we can't trust what they say.

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 33 points 1 week ago

and then $2,000 in foreign currency

Seems like the typical American Scapegoat™. I wonder what "foreign currency" they're referring to... Feels like an urge from US authorities to use this case as "muh [placeholder for the name of some imaginary international bogeyman which US authorities believe it's under their beds right now]".

“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication

Something that's one of the most sold products from Amazon, Shopee, AliExpress, among other marketplaces. For example, it's sold even in some major grocery stores here in Brazil, so I imagine that a similar scenario happens in the US.

It's got protection especially for contactless cards (so these cards can't be used at a distance for paying things the cardholder isn't aware of), and it generally offers some water protection (it's not expected to be diving together at some beach with the cardholder, but it'd definitely offer some protection against spills and minimal soaked clothes due to rain, for example).

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