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Ukraine continues to target Moscow with drone strikes, forcing the city to shut down its airports
(www.businessinsider.com)
How can we get them more drones?
this post was submitted on 20 Aug 2023
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They’re building their own drones, and they’re pretty good. They just need money for parts at this point.
Wonderful to hear! What's the best way to fund them?
If you want to donate directly to their armed forces, this is the way to go:
For some reason Google pay keeps failing for this. I will try credit card a bit later and report back
Also United24
Place orders on AliExpress for parts... Because that's what they're doing.
They thought they could bomb everyone else without getting any scratch
Well for most of the war Ukraine was supplied with arms on the condition they only be used to defend.
UN/US/UK/UKnowwhoelse didn’t want to poke the nuclear armed bear. And I get it. I really do.
But that can only hold for so long.
I’m glad Ukraine is bringing the war to the Russian citizens feet, and not just the poor who are paying with their young males in the ground in the war, but to the city dwelling people who actually can start to grumble and make a difference if they don’t feel comfortable.
That's why they're using drones and sabotage instead of provided weapons.
Vladimir "Meyer" Putin
IIRC: Goring proudly claimed a bomber would never reach Berlin.
I don't know if it's a mod or the base game, but I always appreciate the Göring quote on the Hearts of Iron IV loading screens:
"No enemy bomber can reach the Ruhr. If one reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Goering. You may call me Hermann Meyer."
- Hermann Meyer
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A reported Ukrainian drone strike Friday caused Moscow to shut down all four of its major airports, CNN reports.
"The drone was jammed and fell near the settlement of Putilkovo, which is near the Russian capital, causing no casualties or damage," the Russian defense ministry said in a statement to CNN.
This development comes as Ukraine increases the frequency of drone attacks throughout Russia, according to CNN.
Ukrainian officials also claimed their Air Force claimed it had destroyed fifteen Russian-made drones and carried out ten group attacks, the outlet reports.
Meanwhile, Chernihiv — a city in northern Ukraine — is reeling from a Russian missile strike on a theater and university that has killed at least seven people and injured 90, CNN reports.
Among those killed was a six-year-old girl, and first responders have taken a twelve-year-old girl in "grave condition" to Kyiv for treatment, local officials told the outlet.
The original article contains 186 words, the summary contains 150 words. Saved 19%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Ukrainian officials also claimed their Air Force claimed it had destroyed fifteen Russian-made drones and carried out ten group attacks, the outlet reports.
That's way too many qualifiers. I understand being cautious with your statements, but this is almost unreadable.
You are replying to a bot
I read it, you read it... it's a conversation thread.
Is there some notion that replying on lemmy must be strictly to engage the parent comments author?
Because I've never seen so many people policing replies as I have here. It's like we hate engagement or something.
"You" doesn't mean I'm talking to the bot, I'm using it as a general descriptor for a person. I could have said "I understand being cautious with one's statements", but that's very formal and unnecessary in a comment on a social media website. I can easily imagine you reading a sentence like "You need to study really hard to get to Harvard" and think someone is talking to you personally instead of making a general statement.
Communication is a cooperative process, interpreting what others say maliciously and automatically assuming they made a mistake is the definition of "bad faith engagement".
Edit: to clarify even further: since I commented on the text of the article, I'm replying to the summary. Maybe that's the part you're confused by.
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Good.
Bring the fight back home to mother Russia.
For some 25 years the Russian people have been complicit in letting Putin gain ever more power and they weren't willing to stop him when it would have been infinitely easier to do so. So since they turned a blind eye then, they should be prepared for Putin's terrible policies to come home and bite them in the ass now.
Not that I defend this asshole, but I feel like the people that didn't turn a blind eye fell down windows.
Because it was always one person here or one person there, and not an organized collective group looking to remove him from power. These days, he has absolute power, but that was not always the case and yet the Russian people just sat back and watched as he collected more and more and did next to nothing to stop him. So I hope they enjoy life in Russia as the war finally goes to them.
I still don't see how you can jam a drone. You can jam the controler, you can jam the GPS signal. But if it looses contact and the GPS starts fluctuating, it should just estimate its position from last know location and distance to target, using air velocity and horizon. Certainly if high school FIRST robotics kids can do an autonomous mode for robots, Ukraine can come up with something.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander