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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Did he though?

Unless somebody’s got a link to what he actually said, I just don’t believe it. There’ve been so many lies about “what Trump said”

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago) (1 children)

He spoke about how the 1776 project to be mandatory in schools and any schools that teach 1619 project or critical race theory to be defunded and sanctioned. Those are just examples and evidence.

Edit: But here’s a more recent article talking about banning teaching about slavery itself https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-defund-schools-teach-155006275.html

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So I was right. He’s targeting CRT and the 1619 Project (what is this?), which is not the same as targeting any mention of slavery.

That sure didn’t take long to debunk.

So the claim that Trump is trying to remove mention of slavery from classrooms turned out to be a lie. Another lie.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

Read the article, it talks about “slavery” and not the examples I gave above.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

This doesn’t have to be controversial, just read the confederate state’s declarations of succession. The cause of the civil war isn’t open for interpretation. The people who succeeded litterally wrote down and formally publicized their reasons.

none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 22 hours ago

Yeah that's your first mistake. You assume magas read. They don't. Then you assume they care about facts. Big mistake, buddy. They don't!

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (7 children)

and a blow at slavery is a blow at civilization

Oh fuck if I had three wishes one of them would be to get a hatchet and get into a ring with whatever fucktard wrote that.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Go read what the other states wrote. There’s more fun in there!

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I'm already angry enough at humanity.

I'm genuinely ready to go to the street and burn shit down and I don't even live in the states. (I've got some of my own problems where I live as well.)

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Don't forget the part where if you joined the Confederacy you signed:

"No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in Negro slaves shall be passed.”

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is just the tip Americans, he's about to give you all 4"

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

That's giving him twice the credit Stormy did

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They barely teach about it as it is. My daughter's social studies textbook had page after page about Marbury v. Madison and two paragraphs about Harriet Tumbman.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Harriet Tubman was a great hero, but she did not shape society. Marbury v. Madison established judicial review, which allows the SC to strike down laws as unconstitutional. That's massive. Brown v. Board of Education or Roe v. Wade rely on that.

Judicial review has been adopted by republics around the world (though not all). Writing as a European, I believe it's a greatly underappreciated US contribution to global culture and the cause of democracy and human rights.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Marbury v. Madison established judicial review, which allows the SC to strike down laws as unconstitutional.

That is literally all a 14-year-old needs to know about it.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

What are they actually taught about MvM?

I'm not sure what kids should be taught about Tubman. Generally, I don't think hero stories have much to say on society or history. Tubman makes for a good exception, as her story teaches the lesson that African-Americans and women were not merely passive objects of history but people who made their own decisions. It also teaches us that there are things that even the supposedly powerless can do. Even so, how much of her actual biography belongs in a social studies text?

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was always about bringing slavery back.

Ever since we shed blood to end it, they've been trying to bring it back.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Slavery never ended.

Ever see those stupid laws like “don’t ride a horse on a Sunday?” Or look at when “vagrancy” laws were passed, or differences in sentencing between crack and coke.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Look at prison rates and racial backgrounds in the south. Look at how felonies are used to disenfranchise. Look at the war on drugs.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

In his 6min 1A speech the week after winning he’s going off about censorship and social media moderation. He asked Republican legislators to send retain your records letters to the universities in their states. He then said he was going to pull funding from all universities guilty of censorship/moderation not just going forward, but in the past as well.

He had a bit about never using the “labels” misinformation and disinformation going forward. It’s unclear if that piece is included in that threat to universities.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Can't have schools teaching about slavery in the land of the free. It just doesn't fit with the theme.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is just a continuation of the current indoctrination system. For example, they don't teach about the founding slavers either. Everything is a whitewash.

A culture that is founded on racist delusions and fantasies is not capable of teaching accurate history.

[–] belastend 38 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Yeah, but have you considered that both sides bad?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

This is business as usual, I was told, nothing would change, us shitlibs were just scaremongering about Trump.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's what the majority of white voters want

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Try out the new America!!! Same shit taste, but now with even more racism!!!!

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago

#LandOfTheFree

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It makes them uncomfortable to talk about it. Or acknowledge it's lingering effects. It's much more uncomfortable for the people suffering the lingering effects. But that's not what's important./s

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[–] Pofski@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (41 children)
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