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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 43 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

This doesn’t have to be controversial, just read the confederate state’s declarations of succession. The cause of the civil war isn’t open for interpretation. The people who succeeded litterally wrote down and formally publicized their reasons.

none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 hours ago

Yeah that's your first mistake. You assume magas read. They don't. Then you assume they care about facts. Big mistake, buddy. They don't!

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

and a blow at slavery is a blow at civilization

Oh fuck if I had three wishes one of them would be to get a hatchet and get into a ring with whatever fucktard wrote that.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Go read what the other states wrote. There’s more fun in there!

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I'm already angry enough at humanity.

I'm genuinely ready to go to the street and burn shit down and I don't even live in the states. (I've got some of my own problems where I live as well.)

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Don't forget the part where if you joined the Confederacy you signed:

"No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in Negro slaves shall be passed.”

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It was always about bringing slavery back.

Ever since we shed blood to end it, they've been trying to bring it back.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Slavery never ended.

Ever see those stupid laws like “don’t ride a horse on a Sunday?” Or look at when “vagrancy” laws were passed, or differences in sentencing between crack and coke.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Look at prison rates and racial backgrounds in the south. Look at how felonies are used to disenfranchise. Look at the war on drugs.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This is just the tip Americans, he's about to give you all 4"

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago

That's giving him twice the credit Stormy did

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 15 points 20 hours ago

In his 6min 1A speech the week after winning he’s going off about censorship and social media moderation. He asked Republican legislators to send retain your records letters to the universities in their states. He then said he was going to pull funding from all universities guilty of censorship/moderation not just going forward, but in the past as well.

He had a bit about never using the “labels” misinformation and disinformation going forward. It’s unclear if that piece is included in that threat to universities.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

They barely teach about it as it is. My daughter's social studies textbook had page after page about Marbury v. Madison and two paragraphs about Harriet Tumbman.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Harriet Tubman was a great hero, but she did not shape society. Marbury v. Madison established judicial review, which allows the SC to strike down laws as unconstitutional. That's massive. Brown v. Board of Education or Roe v. Wade rely on that.

Judicial review has been adopted by republics around the world (though not all). Writing as a European, I believe it's a greatly underappreciated US contribution to global culture and the cause of democracy and human rights.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (9 children)

Marbury v. Madison established judicial review, which allows the SC to strike down laws as unconstitutional.

That is literally all a 14-year-old needs to know about it.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

What are they actually taught about MvM?

I'm not sure what kids should be taught about Tubman. Generally, I don't think hero stories have much to say on society or history. Tubman makes for a good exception, as her story teaches the lesson that African-Americans and women were not merely passive objects of history but people who made their own decisions. It also teaches us that there are things that even the supposedly powerless can do. Even so, how much of her actual biography belongs in a social studies text?

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[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Recently watched a drunk history episode about spies, one of the segments featured Harriet Tubman. Absolutely worth a watch, you can find it on YouTube free.

Did you know she was Americas first female military leader? I didn’t till I saw that! And I got a half decent education where they didn’t gloss over slavery (helps I grew up in NY).

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

This is just a continuation of the current indoctrination system. For example, they don't teach about the founding slavers either. Everything is a whitewash.

A culture that is founded on racist delusions and fantasies is not capable of teaching accurate history.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Try out the new America!!! Same shit taste, but now with even more racism!!!!

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago

Can't have schools teaching about slavery in the land of the free. It just doesn't fit with the theme.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It's what the majority of white voters want

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[–] belastend 38 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Yeah, but have you considered that both sides bad?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

This is business as usual, I was told, nothing would change, us shitlibs were just scaremongering about Trump.

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[–] Pofski@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (38 children)
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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago

#LandOfTheFree

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Why? The repugs have been nothing but a constant clown show for the last 20 years. Its only going to get more ludicrously insane now that there are more of them on the rolls

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