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Analysis shows Gen Z can be liberal on issues like reproductive rights and climate change while conservative on the economy, jobs and immigration.

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[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 55 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

This is something that really bothers me. You can't be liberal on the issues of abortion and climate change and also be supportive of conservative politicians who are completely opposed to those two things being important. You're basically just a liar.

Edit because of some comments: I agree that some aren't lying. Most are definitely convinced by the propaganda. But there's also people who are lying to themselves about it. That last one is what I was talking about. I'm gonna leave the original phrasing though because of the people directly addressing it.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 hours ago

They aren't lying, they were lied to by the media propaganda machine and didn't have time or care to look for any new information. They got firehose blasted by pro-Trump social media everywhere and likely thought he was a better choice than the "stupid woman".

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 4 hours ago

Ignorant would be the better word.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

a fair number of them, as is the case in any age group, just want the 'right people' hurt. i.e. they're racist, or anti-lgbtq; or perhaps they love the small arsenal they have 'collected', or an old book of folklore (or rather, the weekly interpretations of cherry-picked bits) more than they love any person.

but mostly, they were basically scammed. unchecked lies and far-right off the wall conspiracies pounded-in day after day after day have them brainwashed and programmed.

[–] whygohomie@lemmy.world 39 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Young adults want to protect abortion rights.

GOP casts Propaganda.

Young adults became confused.

The young adults hurt themselves in their confusion.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 25 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

hell of a way to learn first-hand that trump is a fucking con man

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago

well a major part of the american mindset is that we never ever ever make mistakes, so....

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Low information voters are easily confused, but also consider that polling doesn't capture cross sections very well. If 6 out of 10 can vote for the GOP, and 6 out of 10 support the right to abortion, then only 2 out of 10 need to be completely oblivious. It would still be true to say that a majority voted for Trump, and a majority support abortion rights. That doesn't mean it's the same majority.

I haven't looked at the data, but it wouldn't surprise me that 20% of people in any category are confused or out of touch.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 hours ago

What percentage of Gen Z voted for Trump, though? Everyone seems focused on the election numbers as of they represent all voters when they don't.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago
[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Lol, wait until that lot finds out that republicans lie through their teeth about their merits

Conservatism always hurts the economy

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 hours ago

I will wait and see what happens. If things go not bad over 4 years then at least damage is kept to a minimum.

If things go bad over 4 years, my hope is that it will be an important lesson for young people to learn, Trump will be a near comatose sack of bullcrap, and people will be innoculated from Trumpism and right-wing facism for a while.

If things go really bad over 4 years well, sucks but it was everything Democrats warned about and everything Trump projected on his opponents. Best you can do is smarten up, organize, get out and get heard.