3/4 of volume is taken by wood, what are you, russian logistics officer?
also no way to attach spoon-type igniter, this thing is properly ancient design
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I’ve seen the videos of boot instructors being rightfully paranoid that the boots are gonna drop the live grenades during training, I feel like adding these into the mix would straight up give them heart attacks.
yeah, this would end badly. which is why bore-safe 40mm grenades were made (and rifle grenades before that)
Ye olde grenade yeeter
Fido, no!
the boys i mean are not refined
How about just clubbing someone with a live explosive?
This only works if you are black and Scottish
They got more **** ******** ***** **** *** ******* than they got the likes of me.
baseball.
The average American could be expected to already know how to throw a baseball, so it was easier to change the equipment to fit the user than to train every fucking soldier how to throw a lopsided stick.
Knife juggler here, so I have a lot of experience throwing off-CG objects...
It's not really that different from throwing a baseball. It's a little more difficult to catch, but with very little practice ( like 5 or 10 minutes) you'll be able to do it. That being said, I think the "baseball" style grenades where adopted because they can fit through smaller openings, you can roll or tumble them towards your target, they're harder to see, and harder to scoop up and throw back.
And that was when the SAS started recruiting 'grenade returner' jugglers.
Uhh, what do you think Wimbledon is?
we are so lucky that basketball wasn't as popular back then
That's a reason for then not now.
Better question is then why didn't Germany stick with the old design instead of switching to more "modern" looking grenades?
And the answer is NOT "baseball". The answer is that they're too heavy and cumbersome. And the cons outweighs the pros.
The answer is it simplified NATO logistics
Pray we don't simplify it further
Is this why soldiers in the rest of the world kick their grenades like a soccer ball?
That and all the other reasons. The only stick grenades still around in appreciable numbers are anti-armor grenades where the handle has a parachute inside. For normal fragmentation grenades, essentially everyone has moved to non-stick grenades (except the USMC who want to make stick grenades).
Even in WW2, the Germans produced more of the boring looking Model 39 grenades than they did of the iconic and eye catching stick grenades. People notice what they want to notice.
Hungary made stick grenades until relatively recently, but even there stick part is much shorter (M42)
Why I hedge with "essentially everyone" because I know some obscure Literally Who is always going to be an exception.
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Stick grenades?
I put the fuze on both sides, that way I always come out topped.
Yeah, what could possibly go wrong? Blow me in half?
Wisest wizard gets weird in the marines
It's not weird if the whole squad contribute
I can carry 8 modern hand grenades, or 2 of those things.
I'm pretty sure you can carry at least 3 of them
We should use those ball throwers for dogs. Imagine the distance you could get! Then you could have 8 normal grenades and throw them stupid distances.
What a sick idea. You should always use balls to play fetch with dogs, grenades are way too expensive.
An atlatl for grenades!
A splatlatl, if you will.
Genuinely made me actually laugh out loud
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Too many people tried using them as hammers.
Not sure if you're joking but the German Stielhandgranate was literally nicknamed "potato masher" by soldiers, so there may be some truth to that
TNT filler is very stable. It's fine. I mean, the grenades would not be great as hammers, but they won't explode at a touch.
Let me go further: spikes.
The Germans did have hand grenades without a stick. Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations, and the little one was favored for defense.
I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.
Also they're way bigger, taking more space in storage and when in transport
We have grenade launchers now.
Someone needs to make one that fires the stick grenades. At 3500 RPM.
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