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[–] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 36 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

I hate how every time this shit happens everyone jumps ship and just makes room for evil to backfill where possible. People stand your fucking ground and force these people out or make their lives miserable. Fight back!

Stop making it easy for them and allowing them to win at every turn!!

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago

Once I interned in Washington DC.. you start to understand the mindset there. Everyone all over the US blames DC for the dysfunction in our government. However, the opposite is true, you people sent these dysfunctional people to DC, so really it’s your fault.

Same thinking here. Most government bureaucrats are well-educated caring individuals who are really passionate about their subject area. Expecting them to tolerate a toxic workplace because the American people can’t choose competent leaders is unfair.

[–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 35 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

How is it a government employee's responsibility to "fight back" when the voters insist on installing the worst person as their boss? This is literally what the voters chose.

If the smart career employees want to get out while they can, more power to them. It's not their job to fight the will of millions of idiots.

[–] Dashi@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

Why don't you go get a job in the FDA and fight?

[–] Juigi@lemm.ee 0 points 13 hours ago

Any texas medical personnel here?

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 103 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Normally I would say mass exit with a big middle finger to the voters is the way to go here, but these guys could probably keep their jobs and the status quo by gaslighting that dumb son of a bitch.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you want to see what resigning out of protest or fear from far right extremists leads to...

Look up the KKK's role in ending reconstruction, and what happened to the American South when anyone who wasn't racist was afraid to vote let alone hold position in government.

Giving up is rarely the right move, and federal employees have one of the strongest unions in America and it's comically hard to be fired unless you're a political appointee.

And that is entirely intentional and for this exact scenario.

Resigning just makes it easier for them for no reason. It concentrates the shitty employees who will go along with anything, and it shrinks the federal government when they don't try to restaff

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's comically hard to be fired unless you're a political appointee.

Didn't they change the rules to count many more jobs as political appointees without protections right at the end of Trump's term, only to have Biden change it back? Trump is definitely doing that again.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That still covered the very top of departments, not entire agency workforces

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah. I wasn't aware of that. It still sucks, but maybe for the folks who are left and still protected by the union some malicious compliance is in order.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

In this scenario malicious compliance is doing your job properly and efficiently.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 32 points 23 hours ago

Yes, slow walk everything. Just act like you, too, have brain worms

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, stay. Occupy space. Drag your feet. Misinterpret instructions. Double and triple check them through slow back and forths. Just keep doing your real job until the idiots can get things in order through the bureaucracy to fire you. It'll probably be a while, if ever.

[–] LaVacaMariposa@mander.xyz 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I can't believe these dumbasses are making me hope for MORE bureaucracy

[–] dylanmorgan 32 points 22 hours ago

I feel like every member of HHS and other agencies should agree to just scream “GET FUCKED, BRAIN WORM” any time he says anything until they are fired or he quits.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 46 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don't understand why foreign countries aren't scooping up this knowledge base. The brain drain in the USA is going to be so quick under this second Trump administration.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

Thank you for reminding me to update my resume this afternoon... IT, but lack of a degree (and probably more important, no second language) is probably going to bite me in the ass for emigration purposes.

[–] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

They are. For example, the UK offers a High Potential Individual visa for recent graduates of prestigious universities. I'm sure they'll get more applications this year.

I wonder if this will be the next WW2-scale brain drain like what happened in Nazi Germany.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

This is not a place for smart people

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Unfortunately as long as the US remains the global financial hegemon through the dollar, it'll continue to be the most lucrative place to obtain assets globally.

Double Unfortunately the dollar is probably going to reach 1985 plaza accords levels of strength vs other currencies, but without the global economy working together to help the US like it did before.

An overly strong dollar will likely destroy the US's ability to export goods.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

My friend is pretty smart and he left France to work in the US a while ago. He's pretty pissed at the election though, and afraid especially since his wife is black. He's seriously considering moving back to France.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

He should do more than consider. Especially because of his wife.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago

I fear we're quickly becoming the next Sentinel Island, but not by choice.

[–] wjs018@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I work in pharma, regularly writing and filing things with the FDA (and other agencies), and this has been a topic of conversation at work. The good news for people is that the EMA is still a thing in the EU. So, at least the large pharma companies (like the one I work for), are likely to not really change much about their quality control/processes/etc. because we will still need to conform to the EMA guidelines which are typically in line with the current FDA (sometimes more strict, sometimes less so). The real quality concern would be smaller companies that only file for products in the US. They would only need to meet whatever new FDA guidelines come into effect (if they even do, changing stuff like GMP guidance is extremely complicated and time consuming) since the US is their only market.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Until Trump bans exporting medication.

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I'm pretty sure most of our medications are made overseas.