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[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

What do tankies think of all the millions of citizens Russia killed in the ussr existance?

[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 24 points 7 hours ago

Never happened, also it was just a few thousand, also they were kulaks and Ukrainians did it anyway. But also never happened, western propaganda. And what about NATO bombing Belgrade?!?!?!?!

[–] EchoCT@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The same you feel when I ask about the millions killed yearly due to imperialism & capitalist overreach.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 2 points 25 minutes ago

It's not the same as all. I don't support any killings. But you, you have just now with your comment, tried to excuse all the violence and terror and suffering and death caused by ussr, by saying: the other side does it too. Thats seriously messed up. What kind of a person thinks like that. Despicable.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Is Russia communist? Also is Russian annexation not Imperialist? Just seems hypocritical is all. We know imperial capitalism is fucked up and we protest it regularly.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Marxist-Leninists support Soviet and Chinese imperialism for the same reason liberals support Western imperialism: they're both ideologues who want their people and ideals at the top of the global hegemonic order. They're in a war for global ideological (and possibly ethnic) supremacy, with the winner getting to rule the world.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Hate to break it to you bud but capitalism is already the world order. Now I need you to stay late tonight so we can get this shipment of bombs out to countries in Europe and the Middle East.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Of course, I should have said the Western liberals are defending their position atop the global hegemonic order, and the MLs are trying to unseat them.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

But Russia and China are both capitalist countries.

The tankies are tools/useful idiots used by them.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

But Russia and China are both capitalist countries.

They're certainly not ideologically liberal, even if they have embraced some liberal economic principles, albeit under significant state control and direction.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

They’re certainly not ideologically liberal,

But they're very much still ideologically capitalist.