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FediLore + Fedidrama

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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)

Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

Tags: fediverse news, lemmy news, lemmyverse

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[–] bloopernova@infosec.pub 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hexbear is the_donald of the fediverse. They're doing it to troll and get people angry.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Yup, don't know how that's not obvious to everyone at this point. They just shit on anything western/American to be contrarians. China is good cuz MURICA bad. I'm not a fan of imperialistic western behavior either but that doesn't make China a positive influence on the world stage.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... has made the fediverse an unsafe space for our queer, disabled, neurodivergent, non-western, and other marginalized comrades on this forum ...

It's like they think this is a shield or something. They spew this bullshit and they think it will stop people from criticizing them because they are so noble. We see through the bullshit. We know what they are.

[–] yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They’re using it as a shield, but it’s also much worse than that, it’s textbook toxic manipulators trying to control the narrative: „Look what you made me do!“. They’re trying to guilt-shame the other party into submission.

The utter lack of LGBT content on ~~hexbear~~ whinograd is quite telling, also apparently someone on there took notice and they’re trying really hard to push some pro-trans memes now 😂

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's the same as, "I'm not a racist. I have a friend who is _____."

[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Ducking autocucumber!

I meant to type "racist" but my phone changed it to "cost" and I didn't notice.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

I honestly saw plenty of pro-trans stuff there before. Loke, an inordinate amount

[–] starlinguk@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hexbear is fascist. They're pretending to be tankies, but every single post on there is right-wing and bigoted. It's so damn obvious.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I believe you, but i honestly can't find anything fascist on their front page right now

[–] gayhitler420@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Never seen anything fascist there myself either.

[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Give it time. You'll stumble across a pro-Putin post eventually.

[–] vaccinationviablowdart@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago

if that happened it wouldn't demonstrate anything

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not sure they're even self aware about it. They love china, and will die on the hill that they're communist. Really they support their fascist, capitalist, dictatorship. One that persecutes minorities and LGBTQ people. It's just next level denial, because America is bad, which justifies all their views.

[–] zkikiz@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Where does blahaj say they have no quarter for hexbear users (I see lemmygrad users, but not hexbear) and how is being okay with trans people but personally preferring boobs over penises "chaser" behavior? Why is screenshotting relevant DMs between admins defed-worthy? Is removing heated political conversations ableist? (I see the "X-tard" part of the screenshot, but 80% of the screenshot looks like a communist getting mad and borderline ad hominem, beyond any point about using appropriate language.)

I'm a leftist and all for the Fediverse being able to choose who to federate with, but often the receipts posted by Fedi admins seem incredibly weak. Absolutely protect marginalized people with your full strength and might, but it seems like the people most directly hurt here are the hexbear admin themself. But I don't know, I'm just a random nobody, all I can see are the receipts the admin shows me 🤷

[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 50 points 1 year ago

Yep. They read a bunch of stuff in the worst possible light ever, called the people involved a bunch of nasty names, and left. Basically typical Hexbear behavior.

They will not be missed.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago

Hexbear's entire point in federating was to fuck shit up.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lemmy.blahaj.zone is run by trans women. That's the thing that weirds me out the most. The owners are trans but hexbear is trying to make it sound like they're some kinda Nazi anti-lgbt crowd.

Edit: all I can say is that I'm glad that my doesn't seem to be federated with hexbear.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It feels like an effective way to undermine vulnerable people. Just accuse them of shit that makes them look bad to their target audience. It's up there with accusing people of doing things that you're actually doing to convince people that what you're doing is normal.

[–] Guns4Gnus@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's literally the excuse Russia used to invade Ukraine.

[–] vaccinationviablowdart@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 year ago

yes that time russia waged war on ukraine in defense of trans rights. we all literally remember that well.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

The Nazis accused the Jews of being pedophiles. This has been part of the extremist playbook for ever.

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago

Now if they can also defederate from every instance I've ever browsed... that'll be swell.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Dumb drama. Defederating over one community not allowing them to control the narrative.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Seems like they were mostly mad about 196. Pretty disappointed in hiw they handled it

[–] yuri@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

I love how much these bad-faith actors use the phrase “good faith”. Like if I scream loud enough that I’m virtous, no one will judge me by my actions.