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Edit: The translation and perpetrators are accurate, but there are suggestions this did not happen in Amsterdam but in Israel. I removed the mention of Amsterdam from the title just in case.
Re-edit: Ai is pretty cool. It was in Amsterdam.
The Guardian has a story with the sequence of events and more video of multiple incidents. Maccabi (the Israeli team) supporters started burning Palestinian flags, vandalized a taxi, and started chanting about "let the IDF win, we will fuck the Arabs" and "there are no more children in Gaza."
Stuff like that went on for a while, police made a couple of arrests, then after the soccer match things got nastier. 5 people hospitalized (don't know who), Amsterdam natives demanding to know if people were Jewish and to see passports, Israeli supporters setting off fireworks and using makeshift weapons pulled from a construction site.
World leaders are calling it a targeted attack against Jews and shameful. No word in the article about leader reactions to what the Israelis did.
Edit for an important P.S. - Please don't lump all Jews into this. There are many Jews that are at least as fervent in their opposition to what's going on in Israel as any of us. Probably a lot more so because of the personal stakes. I think it's super important to support them because they're fighting from inside the culture. Israel does not equal all Jews - please don't be antisemitic.
Don't forget they jeered during the minute of silence for the victims of the floods in Spain, who had nothing to do with any of this either. Just ridiculously disrespectful, and fans have been banned for less egregious shit. Yet I haven't heard anything from UEFA.
It's weird how UEFA, next to FIFA one of the most corrupt organizations on the planet, will still be aware enough of their public image, to not want to be called antisemitic.
Zionist aim is to conquer the whole world nazi style. Of course they disrespect spain. They will disrespect everyone and everything that's not zionist.
The Guardian has a story with the sequence of events and more video of multiple incidents. Maccabi (the Israeli team) supporters started burning Palestinian flags, vandalized a taxi, and started chanting about "let the IDF win, we will fuck the Arabs" and "there are no more children in Gaza."
And then we have Israeli leaders straight up attempt to silence statements like this, claiming that it is blatantly antisemitic. Even though
But being called an antisemite, by the head of the Israeli government, makes every western politician cower in fear.
Us government here: we believe this is completely unacceptable behavior, and codem the actions of these people. So in response we will give Israel $30,000,000,000 and kindly ask them to use nicer words in their chants.
If you condemn the pro palestinian for what they did in Amsterdam, then you have you condemn these dudes. Simple as that
Yup, hope they got arrested just like the other ones did.
Nope, they got 'evacuated' with special flights because they felt unsafe. I wish they got arrested, there were probably some guys in the crowd that needed to be sent to the Hague for what they did in Gaza.
Police today released that of the 62 arrests 10 are Israeli hooligans.
Who the hell is condemning pro-palestinian soccer fans for fighting the hooligans who started this by ripping down flags, beating up arabs and locals, and graffitiing stars of david on local businesses?
Israelis travel abroad and think they're in the west bank and do this shit all the time.
Btw It appears this vid is not from last week but 3 months ago. They are also referencing to Halpoel Tel Aviv. Nevertheless it's tasteless and should be condemned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MFFk1eQmkA
Disgusting behavior. They were so lucky to be saved by police cause they deserved to get bashed. I hope they are all banned from the country. There is a video of them singing the same song as soon as they land which shows they feel no shame or learnt nothing.
Is this an actual translation? I really need to know if this is real.
It's documented on the Israeli football team's fan wiki and is from as far back as 2015:
https://www.maccabipedia.co.il/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%A8:%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%A8_%D7%94%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%A1
Feel free to use your translation tool of choice
Holy cow. I plugged that into a translator and it's awful. Every time I think Israel can't go lower something like this comes out. I can't believe they have sung this song for almost a decade. I was going to post parts of it here to save people the effort of translating it, but it's so hateful I don't want to be responsible for that.
Here is Chat GPT translation and contextualization to me:
: Here's an English translation and explanation of the text you provided, which is indeed hateful and provocative:
Translation: You play the extremists, sing songs about the Holocaust And even think it's funny to deny the State You are prostitutes for the Arabs, we are ashamed of you At the end of the day, Gate 5, we will f*** you We will f*** you, and then we will drink your blood And in the town square, we will hang every communist who comes here We will take your girls, who love to party When we rape them, we will shout: today, death to Hapoel! Today, death to Hapoel...
Context and Analysis: This text appears to be a highly aggressive and provocative chant, likely linked to extreme rivalries in sports culture, particularly football (soccer) in Israel. Such chants are often used by ultra groups or fanatical supporters to express deep hostility towards opposing teams or their supporters—in this case, targeting "Hapoel," a well-known sports club.
The language used is explicitly violent, sexist, and incites hatred, demonstrating how some chants can cross from intense competition into dangerous expressions of prejudice and violence. If used in real-world settings, such chants contribute to an atmosphere that promotes aggression, intolerance, and harmful behavior in and outside stadiums.
This type of content, while reflective of a certain subset of fan culture, raises concerns about boundaries in sportsmanship, hate speech, and the impact on broader societal norms. If you'd like, I can provide further insight into how this type of rhetoric is handled legally or culturally.
Is fan hooliganism prevalent mostly among soccer fans? This doesn't seem to be the first time soccer fans are violent (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism)
I remember it used to be a way bigger problem than today. To the point where they beat other guests to death. At least in Germany they cracked down and it's mostly under control now, with a lot of police presence.
Exactly. If it’s true, it’s horrific—but it would also be incredibly easy to mistranslate these words on purpose.
Update: User Sami above found the original Lyrics. User Kaput put them through ChatGPT translation above. https://lemmy.world/comment/13406449 The translation was accurate.
Exactly. I need a verbatim translation from a Hebrew speaker.
Tried putting it through an AI translator. All it managed to put out was
But raping Arabs is very normalized in Israel so these chants do not strike me as out of the ordinary. This is what they air on TV
If there are any Hebrew speakers who do not believe these translation accurate please comment below and/or report the post so I or mods can remove it.
That was a sobering video. What awful people.
Disgrace to the religion.
Yeah it's kinda hard to believe... It's so coordinated. And for a song, the lines don't repeat much...
There's a proper place to settle this disagreement and it isnt in Amsterdam.
They're much closer to the ICC than Israel, the song in and of itself sounds like a confession of crimes against humanity.
Average football fans
Pretty much this. Replace Israeli with Polish and I’d even recognize the lyrics.
God damn. I had no clue that Israeli men were so..... gay. I mean they all but said they were gonna choke on Palestinian dick. Like we get it Isreal , you wanna suck some cock, just save some for the rest of us at least sheesh.
In all seriousness, this is vile, they are vile.
Nuke Israel.
Why make the land uninhabitable for anyone to live. And who gave the right to nuke earth? Even damaging forests was considered a war crime during ancient days, and wars were fought against those that harmed the planet. Now people are just carelessly using the word "nuke".