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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 214 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This is one of the most American things I've ever read.

[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

lacks guns and burgers but I'll take it

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The driver was distracted because he was eating a Big Mac while cleaning his pistol.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 14 points 2 weeks ago

If only there had been a good ambulance with a gun.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 10 points 2 weeks ago

If America the legal battle will cost the EMS a huge part of their budget.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)
[–] asret@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's awesome! But as an outsider, the ambulance story still seems more "American" to me. There's been a significant shift in how America is perceived here over the last 30 years.

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[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 81 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Is this fuck cars or fuck the us?

Show of hands, who pays for ambulances regardless of why?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago (47 children)

My intention is definitely "fuck cars." The fucked-up thing here is that even ambulance drivers, who should know better more so than almost anybody, are incompetently right-hooking cyclists. Billing him for it is merely the icing on the shit-cake.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 53 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

A lot of EMTs work 24-hour shifts, and 48-hour shifts are not uncommon. The thought that the ambulance driver on the road next to me might be at hour 46 is... frequently worrying.

The problem isn't the EMTs being incompetent, the problem is with the industry standards and the employers.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

That again sounds more like a shithole country problem tan a car problem.

[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly this. They transported someone, they filled out a PCR for billing to send to insurance and the patient.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I was forced to work a few 24+ hour shifts in healthcare and working on zero sleep fucked me up. It gave me migraines, vomiting, insomnia, manic depression and I felt like I was going to have a heart attack.

It is beyond cruel and inhumane that employers can force people to work without sleep. It is so fucked that not allowing someone to sleep is considered a form of torture by the Geneva convention.

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[–] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Bikes: a transportation vehicle with health benefits. Ambulance: a transportation vehicle for the unwell.

Bikes are the natural enemy of the ambulance. A war between the bike clan and the ambulance clan is on the horizon.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Solution: Ambulance bikes.

(A show like Top Gear but for bicycles could be pretty awesome.)

[–] BastingChemina 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It exists

https://www.emergency-live.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/NHS_bicycle.jpg

It does not transport people but it is great for places with a lot of traffic to have a first responder on site quickly before an actual ambulance arrives.

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[–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 62 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's an interesting business strategy, I'll give 'em that

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

Like firemen setting fire to extinguish.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Ankh-Morpork Ambulance Guild strikes again.

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like it's time for Vetinari to have a word with them.

[–] Excrubulent 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A hypercompetent autocract whose only concern was the perfect management of his city was the only unrealistic thing about Discworld.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

It has to do with morphic wossname. On the Disc only one person gets to play City Skylines, but he gets to do it with infinite detail.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Don't catch you slippin' now

Seriously, don’t slip. It will both literally and metaphorically cost you an arm and a leg in the states.

[–] MrSusan@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Ambulance in my area

[–] Technotica@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A new way to make money! Much easier than waiting for someone to need an ambulance!

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[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 41 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 36 points 2 weeks ago

It's called a 'for profit business', look it up, people!

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sounds like a pretty straightforward lawsuit

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[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

they couldve gotten way more than $1,800 if they hit a few more cyclists on the way. theres plenty of room in the back of an ambulance

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe playing devil's advocate here, but if it was the ambulance's fault then the ambulance company's insurance should be paying for all of the medical bills, including the ambulance ride. And the bill for the ambulance ride pays the EMS workers salaries and the vehicle maintenance.

The amount of profiteering in the medical industry is obscene, but I'm not sure this is an example of it...

[–] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not a lawyer, but it strikes me that this could be exactly what is happening. The ambulance company's insurance wouldn't pay the hospital directly, they aren't health insurance. So instead, the cyclist's health insurance footed the initial bill. Then they went after the cyclist for his deductible/copay/whatnot. Now he has to get the money from the ambulance company. If this was vehicle on vehicle violence, he would have gone to his auto insurance, who would have in turn went after the ambulance company's insurance, but he might not have auto insurance or auto insurance might not be willing to get involved because he wasn't driving. So he has to go direct to the company. Wouldn't be shocking if the company pushed off any non-legal petitions from him because he doesn't have the name weight of an insurance company with lawyers on retainer, so now he is seeking a legal remedy. Insurance doesn't just work always, there is often a degree of negotiating and litigation involved in these exchanges, especially if one party disagrees with another on matters of liability

[–] loics2@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How the fuck is this "fuck cars" content? I hate cars as much as everyone here, but I don't think we can replace ambulances with bikes

[–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Meanwhile in Russia(and pretty much rest of Europe): citizems get full healthcare and even foreigners get some of it. For free.

This is what happens if any foreigner for example breaks bone in Russia:

  1. Emergency, including emergency specialized, medical care is provided to foreign citizens in case of sickness, accident, trauma, poisining and other cases requireing emergency treatment. Such medical treatment provided by state and municipal healthcare organizations is free of charge.
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