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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 26 points 2 weeks ago

Remember all thay resistance he faced in 2016? Gone. That shit takes decades to build up and was out of steam four years ago.

After that I have no idea.

[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If you're a white Christian male you are the shit.

Anyone else is losing rights

Also Trump will declare martial law after 4 years with presidential immunity and every position of power stacked with handpicked loyalists.

Unless there is a revolution of some kind the US will probably go the path of Nazi Germany after Hitler achieved total control

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 23 points 2 weeks ago

The planner will never recover from his systematic sabotage of all efforts to save it. This is what scares me most. He lies through his teeth to make money, a lakey to soulless corporate mega entities and the entire human race will pay for this one man's greed, long after he has died. Our kids will pay for his opulence and that to me is so sad.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

More fucked than BREXIT.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty fucked. I'm already weighing my options here now that this has happened. My gf is a Brazilian here on a education visa, will Trump deport her? Maybe. If she goes back to see family during the summer will she be allowed back in? I don't have much faith she will be. My cousin is trans and in a red state now, he's very much at risk. My other cousin is queer and also at risk. If my dad wasn't already dead his disability money will have dried up, not to mention his medications and treatments would've been unaffordable more than they already were. Thank fuck I don't have or want kids so they don't have to grow up in this shit hole of a country, if there's even a livable planet left with Trump deregulating and adding to the climate crisis.

We're about to be bent over the table with no lube

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago

The US is just as fucked as everything and everyone else, which is 100%

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Who cares, it's what they want and what they voted for, AGAIN. I'd be more concerned about the rest of the world. America can go off in a puff of smoke and it would be the best thing the ever did

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 weeks ago

Listen, I hate my country right now, and am disgusted by the people who live here...

That's it, that's the end of my sentence.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Except your trade would be hindered. Russia would plow through Europe. The power vacuum made by America "puffing up in smoke" would be so great and horrific it would probably overshadow WW2 total deaths.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, they want to dismantle a lot of the stuff that protects the middle and working classes. The country will be fine. The people will suffer. Democracy? Judgement is reserved. If he follows through on his idea of a third term without a legitimate amendment to the Constitution then it's very very dead. But we won't know that for years.

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[–] would_be_appreciated@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The truth is it's unlikely anything historically big is going to happen in the US. We saw what Trump did last time he was in office, and it was really bad, but it was recoverable. The fear isn't that it's likely, but that it's far from a non-zero chance, and there's very little we can do about it. That uncertainty is scary when we've had a relatively good time in recent decades.

Will we see a sudden shift toward a state where you can get jailed or murdered for being a dissident? Maybe, but probably not.

Will we see an escalation of the wars involving Israel, such that we see a WWIII and/or the first nuclear strike since WWII? Maybe, but probably not.

Will we see economic collapse causing widespread hunger and homelessness that we haven't seen since the Great Depression? Maybe, but probably not.

The only thing that's really a guarantee is that we're another four years away from dealing with climate change, and while that's massive for humanity down the line, individuals currently living in the US are probably going to be mostly fine. Not to say nobody will be affected - hurricanes, floods, fires, and so on - but it won't cause catastrophic failure of society in the near future.

[–] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Counterpoint (and please, I am literally begging you to talk me off this cliff): Trump didn't know anything about being President the first time. I believe that he thought Presidents could do whatever they wanted. The team he had around him, while you can call them assholes and pieces of shit and every other name in the book, understood how the government and the Presidency worked and were able to reign him in.

All of those people are now gone and he will be surrounded by purely yes-men. He will promote the Generals who will be loyal to him, not the country or the Constitution. Couple that with the newfound Presidential immunity, and Trump has all but free reign to do whatever he wants. He will also appoint judges, like Aileen Cannon, who are loyal to him. Those judges, thanks to the Supreme Court overturning the Chevron deference, will now be the "experts" instead of federal agencies.

I do agree that there probably won't be a sudden shift, but there will be a shift and we will feel it in almost every aspect of our life. He supposedly promised to put RFK Jr in charge of numerous health agencies and campaigned on getting rid of the Department of Education. And I very much recall at least two instances where he said this is the last election you'll have to vote in. Is he going to find/create a way to suspend the 2028 election and stay in power? Who's going to stop him?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 15 points 2 weeks ago

It is worse.

Trump started with either incompetent yes men who didn't know how to govern or competent yes men who tried controlling the damage that the President caused.

You now have a group of coordinated people who see Trump as willing to agree with whatever as long as he looks good enough.

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[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like the U.S. is becoming similar to Russia. For example, we are seeing an autocratic strongman holding the highest office and only vaguely behaving within the democratic system, with a clear intent to rule unilaterally with a congress and Supreme Court that are less checks and more support for maintaining the power base. And as generations continue to experience this way of life, America as a society will forget what it was like for the past 250 years where both parties respected the system with peaceful transfer of power.

It’s sad, but fascinating in a kind of slow motion train crash to be alive for.

[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

From the wiki on Project 2025:

Critics have characterized Project 2025 as an authoritarian, Christian nationalist plan to steer the U.S. toward autocracy.[14][16][17][18] Legal experts have said it would undermine the rule of law,[19] separation of powers,[7] separation of church and state,[20] and civil liberties.[7][19][21]

"It proposes criminalizing pornography and imprisoning those who produce it,[34][35] removing legal protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity,[35][36] and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs[7][36] while having the DOJ prosecute "anti-white racism" instead"

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