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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

calling the shots in europe is part of the us strategy to perpetuate imperialism. nato wont go anywhere.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world -3 points 2 hours ago

I don't think NATO is in any danger. Trump has a very aggressive and bombastic style of negotiation. You saw this with NAFTA. Trump called it the worst agreement in the history of the world. But the USMCA is just NAFTA with a new acronym and now it's apparently the BEST trade agreement in the history if the world. Its the same with Trump and NATO. The Europeans are the worst freeloaders in the history of the universe...until they up their defense spending by half a percentage point to appease the Donald, and then NATO will be the best alliance ever. Typical bombastic bullshit.

[–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 6 points 9 hours ago

NCD not beating the MIC bootlickers allegations

[–] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

For people outside NATO it hasn’t been credible for a long time now.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 3 hours ago

For people inside NATO its surprising how much credibility they have considering how much just straight terrorism they've carried out over the years. Defensive alliance my arse

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

Now watch red maga walk back on that too, like all of blue/red maga promises.

The only good thing that could've possibly come out of this, and it won't even happen.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

NATO hasn't been credible since they helped the US perpetrate a brutally violent colonialist pity party in Afghanistan.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 33 points 18 hours ago

NATO will be fine. They'll just have to up their game a bit militarily. If America wants to be insular and wrap a flag of isolationism around them, it'll hurt in the short term, but after four years of being more independent of Americas tit, its more than likely the US that will find itself less relevant globally.

Even before this, there was already rumblings, not just in China, but elsewhere, about ditching the american dollar standard and returning to the gold standard. That's just going to gain momentum as soon as Trump starts trying to wave his mushroom around.

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