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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone has made their bed, now everyone has to sleep on it.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 230 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (52 children)

Plain and simple... She was a woman, and a black person - There will be months of tap dancing and "deep" analysis, but we're just an ugly, atrophied, broken, racist and patriarchal nation, like deep down in our DNA. We were able to elect Obama, yes - he is half white, and a man (those weren't the loud messages as they attacked him, but Pennsylvania gramma knew those things quietly when she pulled the lever for him). It's not satisfying, but it's just the plain truth here. We're closer to getting over race than we are over sex.

Plenty of deliberate work has been done, mostly by republicans, to keep America stupid, poor and in untreated pain, yes... But we're also just trash on the whole. We raise trash and we vote for trash. We just aren't smarter than social algorithms, TV soap opera narratives, costumes and makeup. "The pretend business man is white, old, wears a tie and has a gold watch. He feels like how daddy felt when I was little, and when things are bad, daddy fixed them the way I remember it."

Video game trolls, people who failed the cop application physical and triple DUI wine moms are America. No further explanation or analysis needed.

[–] LappingDog@sh.itjust.works 43 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

I voted for Harris walz, but I think a lot of this is the fault of Biden for trying to run for reelection and sticking it out until July. I live in the south and I think the lack of a primary reallly hurt the ticket because a sizable portion of the people I’ve talked to felt like she was appointed instead of being elected, which is a bad move when public trust in our institutions is already at an all time low.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 21 points 16 hours ago

Institutional democrats who thought they knew what they were doing and could ignore the base of the party is to blame. Biden being top of the list. Stubborn self assured who when finally pushed to change was only willing to do it on his terms. And made a decision for everyone, again.

One of the big stories is a Democratic party Mayor of a super Blue city being corrupt and organizing police to defend him and yet not a single member of the party has spoken out against it. Endorsed by Hakeem Jeffries.

Status quo is far more important than listening to their base right now and hopefully it changes instead of them once again thinking they need to head further right.

And for the love all things holy I hope the Democrats learn to stop "gaming" the election with specific counties in "blue walls" because they did advanced math that told them it was all they needed. Bare minimum should never have been the goal.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (9 children)

The people you talked to are bigoted cowards that wouldn't have been swayed by any of that shit - She has a vagina and she's black - That's all it was ever going to be.

You're hearing the thing they hope their neighbor would think of them after the fact, " I was this close, Bill... I just wanted more policy detail... More time... If only they didn't make me vote for trump".

Your neighbor fucking sucks, Bill - this is the time you pause, take a breath, and fully internalize that to inform your future interactions.

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 56 points 20 hours ago

I remember hearing many democrats that joked how they voted for the white side of Obama. It wasn't funny and isn't funny now. They are not only voting against a woman but one of color.

We are going let christian fascism take control of America because a large portion of our population is sexiest, and racist. Not to mention all those protest votes or fucker who sat on their couch rather than do the right thing.

Now we are all fucked.

[–] MarcomachtKuchen@feddit.org 56 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

This reads like straight out of disco elysium. Great choice of words

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 74 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Also say goodbye to internet freedom of speech, if even a small portion of Project 2025 comes into play. Anti-pornography activism sounds nice on paper, until you realize everyone has a different definition of pornography, and the people that want to ban porn the most have a rather interesting take on what constitutes as porn and what doesn't...

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 31 points 15 hours ago

It absolutely does not sound nice on paper.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but it was our democracy, damn it.

[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Are you guys going to tell him?...

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Why bother?

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 116 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 95 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago

Remember when they burned children alive because their parents may or may not have modified some firearms.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 10 points 15 hours ago

Now is time for the "well, if we don't develop it first, the bad guys will" superpower to show itself off, I guess.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (14 children)

If American democracy survived Jackson, Buchanan, Hoover, and Nixon...

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 13 points 13 hours ago

Things are quite different. While Trump was in office, he did multiple things that were worse than what Nixon did, and was never forced to leave office. I think our institutions were stronger back then. We didn't have a very good democracy when Hoover was president, and it took many decades for the Voting Rights Act to get passed (which has recently been weakened by SCOTUS, and will probably be weakened much more). I think we'll regress quite a bit. Republicans obviously want more of an autocracy/oligarchy. I think it's a very real possibility we have Russia-style "elections" in the future, and I don't even know how you come back from that. Assuming democracy isn't completely destroyed, it may take many decades of fighting and changing the minds of the people who aren't disenfranchised to get back to where we were. Hell, even civil war is on the table if Trump follows through on some of his more egregious promises (i.e. if he deems Democratic state governments as the "enemy within" and tries to use the military to depose them).

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 21 points 14 hours ago

They all paved the way for trump to fucking topple it.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 14 points 14 hours ago

Nixon (also Reagan and Johnson) severely damaged it, Trump is just the end stage.

[–] hardaysknight@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Then it’ll probably be so exhausted it won’t survive trump?

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 42 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

US is system is so bad. The constant pandering to "founding fathers" as if it's even possible to have strong enough vision that it would last 200+ years and refusal to innovate past the ridiculous two party system is just sad tbh.

Yet nothing will change because you can't change these things without a revolution apparently.

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not to mention that the founding fathers would hate what has become of American politics...

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[–] obscur_e@lemm.ee 62 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 53 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

FWIW most clowns are hard-working, skilled individuals who bring joy to people's lives.

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