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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Wait, they replaced the two masts with one double sized one? That seems a bit unwise.

Most of the time, though, the Bayesian operated like a motorboat, powered by two enormous diesel engines. During her five-day voyage, Ms. VanSickle said they sailed only once, for just a few hours. But when they did, the boat moved through the water so smoothly, she said, it felt like they were “gliding.”

Yes that is how sailing often feels if the water isnt choppy.

[–] aio@awful.systems 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Mr. Costantino said the design was not at fault and that the towering mast, which stood 237 feet tall, had not created “any kind of problem.”

“The ship was an unsinkable ship,” he said. “I say it, I repeat it.”

- Designer of sunken ship

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 19 points 2 weeks ago

“no no you don’t get it, you’re floating it wrong”

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 16 points 2 weeks ago

Never ever board a ship if someone calls her unsinkable.

[–] hairyvisionary@fosstodon.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@Soyweiser To be fair that change request was made by the original purchaser of the yacht, long before it was re-christened Bayesian by its new owner

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 2 weeks ago

I know, still a strange choice, a Dutchman should know better.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

between this and the submersible guy I'm starting to think we need more billionaires on the ocean. maybe peter thiel is onto something

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 14 points 2 weeks ago

Poseidon is said to prefer Australian Prime Ministers as sacrifices, but maybe he’ll accept a few techbros.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The orcas were trying to send us this message for a while now

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sadly the orcas only attack smaller sailboats, not the mega yachts. They are not the anti billionaire allies.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe if we funded them better they'd be able to tackle larger projects.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Think it is just a skill issue, they need to git gud.

Bring down a mega yacht any%

[–] corbin@awful.systems 3 points 2 weeks ago

That still puts Larry Ellison in the danger zone, at least.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Some innocent people died so it's sad stuff, but I can't get past the fact that they named a top heavy weirdly balanced yacht the Bayesian.

Well on the bright side naval engineers will be able to update their ~~drivers~~ priors after this perfectly engineered unsinkable sink sa--

“This boat had definite shortcomings that kind of uniquely made it vulnerable to what happened.”

“people would take photos of it constantly because it was so crazy-looking in comparison to other boats.”

Philipp Luke, a Dutch naval architect, started violently shaking his head. “No, no, no,” he said. “You don’t do that.”

“When I first saw this, I couldn’t believe it,” said Mr. Roberts, the naval architect. “It made no sense to me.”

“Technology moved on,” Mr. Costantino said.

Oh.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know. I feel like the prior for putting tech billionaires on massive single-masted yachts with high waterlines and low air vents is still pretty positive. This is only one bad voyage; consider how many trips provide evidence that this is a good plan.

Much like Titan, which had several successful voyages to the Titanic that other billionaires should seek to emulate by using the exact same sorta-procen design and construction that Titan did.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 2 weeks ago

Still think this is a bit expensive, both on cost and collateral damage. Popularizing being your own helicopter pilot among the mega rich is a tried and true tactic.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 2 weeks ago

The boat wasnt called that at first, the guy who ordered it gave it a different name. Guess he sold it as the weirdest HP assassination play

[–] jaschop@awful.systems 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

His Wikipedia article is quite a ride. Apparently he and a Stephen Chamberlain were recently found innocent for a bunch of fraud charges. They boil down to inflating the value of a SW company he sold to Hewlett-Packart. They died within a day of each other in unrelated accidents. Must be rough.

On one hand, if inflating the value of the startup you're offloading onto a tech giant is a crime we should put half of Silicon Valley in prison. On the other hand, maybe we should put half of the Valley in prison.

[–] arbitraryidentifier@awful.systems 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Damn, HP doesn't mess around. I'm going to stop trashing them around the office.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right? Didn't even get caught hiring assassins, unlike those Boeing clowns. Just a weird coincidence, haha!

Given that his codefendant was hit and killed by a car three days after the acquittal, I'm not sure if they even hired assassins or if they have some kind of black magicians on staff.

[–] Sternhammer@aussie.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago

The documents also show that the Bayesian could begin taking on some water at angles that appeared to violate the safety threshold set by the British Maritime and Coastguard Agency.

Clearly safety rules shouldn’t apply to the rich and famous. For example, princesses shouldn’t need to worry about wearing seat belts in cars speeding away from Parisian paparazzi.

[–] cstross@wandering.shop 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@dgerard Do not mess with HP, they have the *real* orbital weather control lasers! /s

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 3 points 2 weeks ago

Happy cake day, Charlie!

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok so if hubris somehow becomes a synonym of bayes I’d be all for it

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

bayesian epistemology for sure

[–] Collectivist@awful.systems -4 points 2 weeks ago

Well naive bayesianism, as practiced by the rationalists. Bayesianism itself can be reformed to get rid of most its problems, though I've yet to see a good solution for the absent-minded driver problem.