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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21841560

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 166 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

also, don't forget, pre-covid: "you should have enough money set aside in savings to live without income for SIX MONTHS!!!"

covid lockdowns: "our $ multibillion corporation is going to DIE if we don't end the lockdowns RIGHT NOW!!!!"

[–] M137@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

While at the same time reporting record profits...

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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Related: 75% of Americans don't have enough money in savings to cover their bills for six months. That's why a recession--which leads to a shrinking number of jobs and decreased consumer demand--is such a huge, dramatic siren for the fed and government. A recession for a nation where a large majority are basically flying without a safety net has an even bigger effect on the recession feedback cycle.

In general our entire economy right now has the knob labeled "high-risk/high-reward" turned to 11. With that many people only a few months from not being able to pay car loans, rent, mortgage, and all their other bills, with huge consumer debt, with car loan defaults already rising, and, therefore, only an economic downturn away from not having the means to maintain robust consumer economy, things would go south in the US very fast and with increasing velocity.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago

They gave all the power to those with money and they know, deep down, that those people are nasty and horrible. They’re afraid of them and so they give them tax breaks and bailouts like one would give sacrifices to eldritch god in the hopes they don’t get punished for existing.

They aren’t afraid of their neighbour, though. Why do you think all conservative humour punches down? They’re all pant-shitting coward suck-ups.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Nobody said shit about PPP loans either.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Guess I shouldn't have been an impressionable teenager that believed adults when I was told I'd work at McDonald's forever if I didn't take the loan. Egg on my face, haha.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Some of those people ended up working at McDonald's anyway, and then had the audacity to want a livable wage... But that would raise prices... But somehow the prices went up anyways... 🤷

[–] zante 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I don’t really remember people calling for the bank bailout

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah I'm pretty salty about the bank bailouts.

Let them die. If you don't let businesses occasionally fail then you don't have capitalism. You have oligarchical socialism.

Yeah it's a problem for the million or so employees. Bail them out. Bail out the people actually doing the work. Bail out the fucking victims.

Student loan forgiveness is fine, whatever. I'd love to have mine wiped out don't get me wrong, but Jesus it's fucking pointless unless you also change the rules and reform the industry.

[–] jlou@mastodon.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All bailed out companies should be required to turn into worker cooperatives

@latestagecapitalism

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[–] zante 6 points 3 weeks ago

Stay salty. It was a rip off.

The people that have preached free market and competition showed you who they are.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Here's a thought excersise that I hope you feel free to take as rhetorically as you wish:

Can you think of a time when it was "real" capitalism ^^^^tm and not crony capitalism/ forgiving socialism for the rich and robust free market capitalism for the poor?

Personally, I can't and I don't think anyone can name a time that that it was, that would stand up to any scrutiny.

If there was never a time that it could have existed, then It was always a lie.

Just to be clear in right behind you 99%. I may be wrong but feel that if you were to look into that area, you would likely come to the same conclusion as me.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, as much as these anti-student-loan-relief assholes do that's infuriating and ridiculous, broadly speaking, the ones I've encountered have also taken a dim view of any and every bailout as well.

There's plenty of ways to fairly criticize their position, inconsistency doesn't seem to be among them.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

The bailouts should have taken the form of an injection into the FDIC to bail out the account holders after the banks closed their doors.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

That neighbour shouldn't have spent all that money on avocado toast!

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Does this person not remember that literally everyone was upset about bailing the banks and auto industry out??? Like why are we pretending that those were popular decisions, and that the population is to blame?

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah but no one opposed the other bailouts as hard as they did for students.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

250 000$ what the fuck

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

But now things have changed… the banks will be a “bail in”

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