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There is enough confusion between horizontal resolutions (2K, 4K etc.) and vertical ones (1080p, 2160p etc.). This is not helping; why even print a promotional sticker with a number of pixels smaller than what it should be?

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[–] technomad 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just click the right arrow to scale it up?

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Don't try to teach me how to use technology, I was building stone axes and made fire before you were born!

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Don’t the outward pointing arrows indicate it’s a widescreen format? That would be my interpretation.

[–] Oisteink@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This confusion is likely local and exists inside your head only. 1080p has been known as full hd since the early days of dvd.

2k and 4k does not refer to horizontal resolution but the number of pixels. 1080p is 2k

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I know the difference but there are lots of people who aren't really savvy with video technology. I wouldn't blame them for thinking that [🢐 1080 🢒] is just barely better than 1024x768.

2k and 4k does not refer to horizontal resolution but the number of pixels

Nope. 1920×1080 is 2 073 600 pixels, which would be 2M. "2K" is the horizontal resolution (1920) rounded up. A screen with literally 2K pixels would be around 50×40, lower than the crappiest handheld consoles.

[–] Oisteink@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Nah

They won’t know about 1024x768, but if they did they would understand that 1080 is barely better.

Going from 1024 to 1920 horizontal also takes the aspect ratio from 3:4 to 16:9. so pixel density is barely better.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

https://www.xkcd.com/1889/

If 2K referred to the number of pixels, it would look like this: Bliss 50×40=2000 This post 62×33=2046

FullHD is actually a little over 2M pixels.

takes the aspect ratio from 3:4 to 16:9. so pixel density is barely better

What? Screen aspect ratio and pixel density are quite different things. Most FullHD TVs are widescreen and have pixel density below 36 ppi, and while high-DPI 4:3 screens are rare, they are not impossible in any way.

[–] Oisteink@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

The Explain XKCD for this comic is gold.

However birds do not use GPS to navigate, [citation needed]

[–] oktoberpaard@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But 2K and 4K do refer to the horizontal resolution. There’s more than one resolution that’s referred to as 2K, for example 2048 x 1080 DCI 2K, but also 1920 x 1080 full HD, since it’s also almost 2000 pixels wide. The total number of pixels is in the millions, not thousands.

For 4K some common resolutions are 4096 x 2160 DCI 4K and 3840 x 2160 UHD, which both have a horizontal resolution of about 4000 pixels.

[–] Oisteink@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah - like stated in the wiki article i linked. im not sure how I interpreted OP when reading the post again today. I didn't notice the arrows part, and thats in the title.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is how one outs themselves as a teenager these days huh?

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

I don’t think the point is the number. The point is that the arrows indicate the width, which is 1920 pixels. But the numbers indicate the height (1080 pixels)

So the sticker is mildly infuriating by having the arrows not correspond to the number, which is the topic of this community.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago

By having seen a low-end 2017 laptop?

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I had an Acer of the same series with that sticker. When that notebook was produced, 2k or 4k was not a thing. We were in the era of transitioning from what we called "HD-Ready" or 720p to "FullHD" or 1080p. These numbers refer to the rows, so the horizontal resolution. At least for me that number is pretty clear I immediately know what it means. I bought that notebook in late 2018 I highly doubt this sticker exists anymore.

The era I'm talking about is like 5-8 years ago btw

[–] myplacedk@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These numbers refer to the rows, so the horizontal resolution.

Yes, that is the number of rows. But that makes it the vertical resolution. There's 1080 pixels from top to bottom. If the arrows/triangles are indicating the direction of measurement, they are wrong.

I suspect that it's an attempt at indicating a wide screen. 16:9, 16:10 etc was fairly new at the time, many buyers would be expecting their usual 4:3 screen ratio.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The terms "2K" and "4K" were totally commonplace since about 2010, although not as prevalent as 1080p. I hate how the video industry switched to marketing horizontal resolution (and rounding it up) just to make the number look big.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

In what way exactly? I am not following some of these comments. The thing that irks me is that the companies make these wide screens, and then hide the resolution to try and fool me into thinking it's a 4K monitor. I actually really want a 4K monitor, and every time, it seems to be someone trying to fool me again. (I know they are available, but I am hoping they come down a bit in price)

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Kerning is important.