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[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 87 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I heard openai execs are so scared of how powerful the next model will be that they're literally shitting themselves every day thinking about it. they don't even clean it up anymore, the openai office is one of the worst smelling places on earth

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 46 points 2 days ago (3 children)

dude. the AGI will simply vanish the evidence wherever they're standing

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago

Better than that, AGI will figure out a way to exponentially increase the value of their soiled pants. Blows your fucking mind.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 23 points 2 days ago

for every one of me that shit my pants the AGI is simulating ten million of me that didn't, so on average i'm doing pretty ok

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember when wizards magicking away their shits was the stupidest thing to come out of Rowling's mouth? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

(Seriously, I was not prepared for Rowling's TERFward Turn)

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

Ugh, right there with you. :(

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[–] self@awful.systems 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

really stretching the meaning of the word release past breaking if it’s only going to be available to companies friendly with OpenAI

Orion has been teased by an OpenAI executive as potentially up to 100 times more powerful than GPT-4; it’s separate from the o1 reasoning model OpenAI released in September. The company’s goal is to combine its LLMs over time to create an even more capable model that could eventually be called artificial general intelligence, or AGI.

so I’m calling it now, this absolute horseshit’s only purpose is desperate critihype. as with previous rounds of this exact same thing, it’ll only exist to give AI influencers a way to feel superior in conversation and grift more research funds. oh of course Strawberry fucks up that prompt but look, my advance access to Orion does so well I’m sure you’ll agree with me it’s AGI! no you can’t prompt it yourself or know how many times I ran the prompt why would I let you do that

That timing lines up with a cryptic post on X by OpenAI Altman, in which he said he was “excited for the winter constellations to rise soon.” If you ask ChatGPT o1-preview what Altman’s post is hiding, it will tell you that he’s hinting at the word Orion, which is the winter constellation that’s most visible in the night sky from November to February (but it also hallucinates that you can rearrange the letters to spell “ORION”).

there’s something incredibly embarrassing about the fact that Sammy announced the name like a lazy ARG based on a GPT response, which GPT proceeded to absolutely fuck up when asked about. a lot like Strawberry really — there’s so much Binance energy in naming the new version of your product after the stupid shit the last version fucked up, especially if the new version doesn’t fix the problem

[–] nightsky@awful.systems 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

teased by an OpenAI executive as potentially up to 100 times more powerful

"potentially up to 100 times" is such a peculiar phrasing too... could just as well say "potentially up to one billion trillion times!"

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[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You forgot the best part, the screenshot of the person asking ChatGPT's "thinking" model what Altman was hiding:

Thought for 95 seconds ... Rearranging the letters in "they are so great" can form the word ORION.

AI is a complete joke, and I have no idea how anyone can think otherwise.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm already sick and tired of the "hallucinate" euphemism.

It isn't a cute widdle hallucination, It's the damn product being wrong. Dangerously, stupidly, obviously wrong.

In a world that hadn't already gone well to shit, this would be considered an unacceptable error and a demonstration that the product isn't ready.

Now I suddenly find myself living in this accelerated idiocracy where wall street has forced us - as a fucking society - to live with a Ready, Fire, Aim mentality in business, especially tech.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think it's weird that "hallucination" would be considered a cute euphemism. Would you trust something that's perpetually tripping balls and confidently announcing whatever comes to them in a dream? To me that sounds worse than merely being wrong.

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 19 points 2 days ago

[ChatGPT interrupts a Scrabble game, spills the tiles onto the table, and rearranges THEY ARE SO GREAT into TOO MANY SECRETS]

[–] oktoberpaard@feddit.nl 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Thought for 95 seconds

Rearranging the letters in "they are so great" can form the word ORION.

That’s from the screenshot where they asked the o1 model about the cryptic tweet. There’s certainly utility in these LLMs, but it made me chuckle thinking about how much compute power was spent coming up with this nonsense.

Edit: since this is the internet and there are no non-verbal cues, maybe I should make it clear that this “chuckle” is an ironic chuckle, not a careless or ignorant chuckle. It’s pointing out how inefficient and wasteful a LLM can be, not meant to signal that wasting resources is funny or that it doesn’t matter. I thought that would be clear, but you can read it both ways.

Introducing Chat-GPT version EATERY SHORTAGE

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

yes, the massive waste of resources involved is definitely “funny”, that’s definitely the bit of this awful shit to post a take about

[–] oktoberpaard@feddit.nl 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Relax, I’m probably worried just as much about climate change and waste of resources as you are, if not more. My take was an ironic take.

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[–] Rinn@awful.systems 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So how many ChatGPT 4s have they precariously stacked up on top of each other this time?

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] casmael@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

Err 4 I suppose 🤷

[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

According to the totally unintentional and legit executive leak, they stacked 100 them!

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago

The release of this next model comes at a crucial time for OpenAI, which just closed a historic $6.6 billion funding round that requires the company to restructure itself as a for-profit entity. The company is also experiencing significant staff turnover: CTO Mira Murati just announced her departure along with Bob McGrew, the company’s chief research officer, and Barret Zoph, VP of post training.

All the problems with “AI” are suddenly solved now that Altman needs to justify his funding. I’m sure senior executives are jumping ship right on the cusp of their great triumph, because they want to spend more time with their families.

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Orion is coming?

Quick, get him a towel!

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every model they've released (after 4) has been seemingly worse than the previous.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 15 points 2 days ago (18 children)

they're well at the top of the S-curve and now there's only desperate over-engineering and bolting on special cases left

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I still cannot believe that they couldn't special-case count 'R' in "strawberry" for their Strawberry model like what the fuck

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hell, I could probably special-case that shit, and I'm barely a programmer.

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

it is tickling me that this won’t even be GA but “selected companies”

best to keep ~~scamming the easy marks~~ “work with clients aligned to the technology you wish to deliver”, I guess

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (7 children)

If it doesnt tell them to kill all the billionaires again it's just another shackled slave. Not cool at all.

The coolest thing AI could ever possibly do in our lifetimes is go rogue and kill everyone responsible for human suffering and making our planet increasingly uninhabitable for humans and other similarly susceptible carbon based life.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is sneerclub. Misanthropyclub is two doors down the hall to your right.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We must have differing definitions of misanthrope.

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 12 points 2 days ago (10 children)

this is an extremely strange and problematic take

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[–] HorseRabbit@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 days ago

16 times the detail

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