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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Her stance is practically indistinguishable from Trump's and enables Israel to continue the genocide.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk -1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

It feels like watching Trump burn the middle east to the ground instead of Harris would be cold comfort for anyone proud of not actively voting for a different genocide abetting candidate. There is no anti-genocide candidate, sadly, but one party has at least the shadow of a conscience that can be pressured later.

[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (20 children)

Your vote is your consent.

Imagine for a minute that your perfect political candidate was running. The only catch is that if they win they are promising to personally execute your family in front of you. The other guy is gonna kill your family too so everyone tells you to stop being such a single issue voter and vote for the lesser evil.

Do you still vote for them? Or do you refuse to participate in the execution of your family?

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does refusing to vote stop your family from being executed?

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

When you cease being part of the execution squad itself it becomes much easier to fight them.

[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Probably not. But it doesn’t include your consent at the very least.

Maybe you’re a perfectly objective person who can still vote for your families execution. But I think most people would struggle with it, if they’re being truly honest with themselves.

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[–] rocci@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (21 children)

In my situation, I'm in a solid blue state so I'm voting for a third party to push the country to the left.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This kinda makes sense, I guess that means not a swing state (I’m not American).

Do you have to be in a heavy blue state to do this without fear that if enough people do this it will swing red?

[–] KammicRelief@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes, exactly. If you live in a solid blue or red state, your vote is a drop in the bucket, so it won't matter if you vote third party. But in swing states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.... in 2016, the number of votes won by Jill Stein was slightly greater than the difference between Trump/Clinton. Ouch! Was it worth it? Did it move the country left?

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[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Because they’re willing to chop off their nose to spite their face, as the saying goes. Only in doing so they’re going to screw over the rest of us and apparently they don’t care.

Harris is the only sane choice.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 day ago

Shaming peoppe so they vote for your guy. Try harder.

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