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[–] Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Yo this comment section is a dumpster fire πŸ”₯

edit: Remember Russian propaganda's goal is to sabotage free discussion and conversation. They achieve this by e.g. shitting in a comment section. That might explain what's going on here. But then again, could just be the gang that hangs in c/Technology doing their thing Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

[–] style99@lemm.ee 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lots of pro-Russia bots in here pretending to be concerned about ~~their sudden inability to sneak backdoors into the kernel~~open source.

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[–] trespasser69@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Linus in 2012: Nvidia fuck you

Linus in 2024: Russia fuck you

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 0 points 21 hours ago

No, fuck you Torvalds.

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[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I wouldn't want to have FSB agents maintaining my open source either.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 139 points 2 days ago

Absolutely based as fuck as usual.

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I'm surprised how many people treat GPL to ignore borders. The IP law still operates only by the rules your country decides.

I can understand the desire for information to be free, but unless Open source movement becomes it's own country the discussion should end there.

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 96 points 2 days ago (3 children)

To directly quote Linus:

Ok, lots of Russian trolls out and about.

It's entirely clear why the change was done, it's not getting reverted, and using multiple random anonymous accounts to try to "grass root" it by Russian troll factories isn't going to change anything.

And FYI for the actual innocent bystanders who aren't troll farm accounts - the "various compliance requirements" are not just a US thing.

If you haven't heard of Russian sanctions yet, you should try to read the news some day. And by "news", I don't mean Russian state-sponsored spam.

As to sending me a revert patch - please use whatever mush you call brains. I'm Finnish. Did you think I'd be supporting Russian aggression? Apparently it's not just lack of real news, it's lack of history knowledge too.

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[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

How is this keeping to open source philosophies in any way?

β€œNo, you can’t work on this, you’re Russian.”

I don’t support the Russian Government or its actions in any way, but these devs are probably not part of it. They maintain drivers for fucking ASUS hardware.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This has nothing to do with open source. If Russians want to work on the Linux kernel, they're absolutely free to do so, because the source code is free and open source. What they are being restricted from is getting their changes submitted to the normal Linux foundation trees. FOSS doesn't mean you're entitled to have the maintainer of a project look at your patches, it means you can use the software however you want.

And yeah, it makes me sad that Russian kernel maintainers are being excluded. That doesn't mean it's a violation of open source philosophies (a maintainer can exclude anyone they want for any reason), it just means it's an unfortunate policy due to international sanctions.

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[–] MrMakabar 65 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Because there are both US and EU laws preventing code from countries deemed a threat. Torvalds is paid by the Ameircan Linux Foundation, which has to work under US law and he himself is an EU citizen. Also a lot of other developers are from those countries and if they do not comply, they could get into some pretty bad legal trouble.

So it pretty much boils down to kick out the Russians or kick out all US and EU citizens and well we see Linus choice.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 82 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Good cleanup on the security vulnerabilities!

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (73 children)

It's really awesome to expel by nationality, even including people who've long moved out and immigrated years ago and don't support the invasion and war waged on Ukraine /s

Honestly fuck Russia ofc, but this goes a bit too far into the grey area between hawkish-reasonable and discriminatory, and on the latter side I'm not sure who and/or what this is meant to help, nor does it seem particularly fair to those individual contributors to keep their code yet remove attribution and mailing list entries.

EDIT: holy shit the bloodlust in the comments here is actually unreal, even on arr slash neoliberal and the politics communities here on lemmy the comments are way more sane.

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