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Privacy advocates got access to Locate X, a phone tracking tool which multiple U.S. agencies have bought access to, and showed me and other journalists exactly what it was capable of. Tracking a phone from one state to another to an abortion clinic. Multiple places of worship. A school. Following a likely juror to a residence. And all of this tracking is possible without a warrant, and instead just a few clicks of a mouse.

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[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

a device that constantly connects to antennas all over the place, is used to track your location.

who would have thought?

if you dont wanna get tracked - dont bring your phone.

[–] wrekone@lemmyf.uk 12 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If you don't want to be tracked illegally, don't bring your phone.

If you don't want any to be tracked legally, write/call/tweet/visit your representatives.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Also just write your Supreme Court and ask them how this isn’t a flagrant violation of the intent of the fourth amendment. Seriously the founding fathers would be asking what the fuck about this. They weren’t good people but they would’ve been privacy nuts.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago)

if you're talking about the supreme court, as in the SCOTUS, they're long past pretending they give the slightest fuck about the bill of rights.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Or we could get rights protecting us from this. Especially considering that that’s a reasonable interpretation of the fourth amendment and the ninth amendment.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

We already have rights protecting us from this. They aren't being enforced.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Wouldn't just keeping your phone in a metal box prevent it from communicating with anything? Keep your phone in a metal box and only take it out when you need it. Only take it out in a location that isn't sensitive. Or hell, just make a little sleeve out of aluminum foil. Literally just wrapping your phone in aluminum foil should prevent it from connecting to anything. A tinfoil hat won't serve as an effective Faraday cage for your brain, but fully wrapping your phone in aluminum foil should do the job. Even better, as it's a phone, such a foil sleeve should be quite testable. Build it, put your phone in it, and try texting and calling it. If surrounded fully by a conductive material, the phone should be completely incapable of sending or receiving signals.

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You could also just turn it off.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

You sure it's still not phoning home? How do you know "off" is really "off" anymore with a modern phone? It's not like an old flip phone that you can just pop the battery out. Sure it sounds paranoid, but we're literally talking about something that used to be the realm of crackpots and cranks - "the government is tracking all of us 24/7!" Well, it seems that's actually literally the case now.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Yes. When your phone is off, it is off.

If you're paranoid you can buy a faraday bag.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There has to be some way that we could have created the architecture to do everything a phone does without letting a user be triangulated easily.

I know there is no incentive to do that, but it amazes me how far ahead the security of the web is compared to phone tech.

Like maybe if phones could authenticate without broadcasting a unique identifier. And maybe they could open a vpn style encrypted tunnel and perform their auth over that tunnel.

Idk, I know nothing about phones, but it has to be possible.

[–] oyenyaaow@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

there's the ole https://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/

kitschy name, but when it was established it was not even planning anything like what it is doing now. meshnet is the section you're looking for.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 36 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Start tracking politician phones. Oh look who paid a visit to the lobbyist house this week! That shit will get shut down real quick.

[–] wrekone@lemmyf.uk 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

If you don't want to be tracked illegally, don't bring your phone.

If you don't want any to be tracked legally, write/call/tweet/visit your representatives.

edit: responded to the wrong comment

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago
[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Hard to connect these dots for most "normal" folks without feeling like a conspiracy nut. Appreciate this journalism.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 39 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This is nothing new. Did we already forget about the Snowden leaks?

[–] actually@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The leaks that 2% of the population got very excited about for a while, but try not to think much about? The leaks judged by many on the reputation of an obscure man living in Russia? Those leaks?

I trust my government and not things only nerds understand. Also they sound weird and made up and very scary ( said most of the people)

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 72 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It drives me nuts how our economic system is making not having a cell phone increasingly difficult. Many necessary things won't even work on a tablet. The smartphone is the most amazing futuristic device I dreamed about that has evolved into a distopian nightmare.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

It drives me nuts how our economic system is making not having a cell phone increasingly difficult.

that's by design. why you do you think the US government allows corporate interests to take such a high position above American citizens? it's not just only because of corruption, it's because one hand washes the other.

The smartphone is the most amazing futuristic device I dreamed about that has evolved into a distopian nightmare.

like all technology, it can be used in ways that you cannot even imagine.

instead of blocking advertising data, we should embrace it IMO.

imagine a world where users shove so much information at these tools that they can't even tell what's real or not. camouflage works better when everyone participates.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 hours ago

instead of blocking advertising data, we should embrace it IMO.

imagine a world where users shove so much information at these tools that they can't even tell what's real or not. camouflage works better when everyone participates.

There's an ad blocker that does exactly this. Called Ad Nauseam. Chrome blocked it from their store super fast, then blocked it from being installed in Chrome from 3rd party sites, then blocked known versions of it from being manually installed in developer mode. I used to run it set to a low percentage - if I "clicked" every ad they'd know to throw my data out, but if I click say 3% of them...

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Run a headless browser that does random searches at random times across different social media and search engines and have it click random ads.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 4 points 3 hours ago

you can essentially already do this with TrackMeNot and AdNauseam

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 74 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

"I got nothing to hide. I'm a boring person" dumbass mfers

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

"why don't you take your clothes off, then? You said you 'have nothing to hide', didn't you?"

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 29 points 6 hours ago

"Got nothing to hide" - Man wearing pants

[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

I’ve heard this exact same thing from a former colleague that left my company to go work at a place selling “smart” security systems 🤦🏻‍♂️

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 42 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I got nothing to hide.

I'm willing to bet that they have curtains on their bedroom window...

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[–] ntma@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Whatever happened to that Edward Snowden loser?

Became a Russian house cat

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 9 points 2 hours ago

~~loser~~ hero

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