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[–] jayrodtheoldbod@midwest.social 53 points 1 year ago

Aw shit, gotta show her the decoy emotions, the ones you can have in a movie for women

[–] robdor@lemmynsfw.com 47 points 1 year ago

Weird horny thoughts seems like a fun room.

[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 year ago

This is not fair. She hardly even has sleeves.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] UndefinedIsNotAFunction@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It shouldn't be a surprise, but I also came out post that statement.

Edit: Also, nobody is ever allowed in that chamber. Just can't be.

[–] Krachsterben@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Men are like volcanoes. They can be quiet for decades before suddenly erupting their accumulated suppressed feelings

As a woman, the secret is the unload your baggage to friends one at a time as to not overwhelm them.

Having a crappy day? Talk about it.

Relationship issues? Talk about it.

Feeling stuck in your career? Talk about it

But don't do it all at once, otherwise people will feel like you're misusing them as free therapy, and takes away from the natural give and take between friends/partners.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, the reality as a man:

"How's your day?" - it's fine

"How's the wife?" - she's fine

"How's work?" - it's fine

This is important info that I feel I personally forget very often. Thanks.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago

But she doesn't have sleeves!

[–] Chev@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did this once on a second date. It overwhelmed her. Never saw her afterwards.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Society, in general, and through the lens of popular media, doesn't think men are, or should be whole people. In general, women in media are often insecure, afraid, and act irrationally and emotionally because of past trauma. These traits are often part of a good person or a main character. Even horny thoughts can be part of "good guys" when they're women. Girls and women can oogle attractive men on screen and make comments without it being a character flaw.

Men on the other hand are stoic and in control of their emotions and themselves. Losing control of temper, lashing out physically or emotionally as a male character is permitted mostly as a failure in a "failure and redemption" arc, or as a primary characteristic of a bad guy.

Fear, insecurity and trauma are often even unacceptable for villains to exhibit, let alone good guys. Horny thoughts are COMPLETELY unacceptable, and only the sleaziest of bad guys or minions will express any. Men should be attracted to the person's mind only, not their body.

When good guys share their feelings, it's often a story about a past trauma (daughter died, father never proud) where the emotional consequences are barely expressed in their day to day actions. At this point they're permitted to shed a single tear, to show they're deep and emotional. That's generally what people expect when they ask a guy to share their emotions, a simple narrative that doesn't affect most of day to day life, a VERY restrained display of emotions, then back to stoic male.

Anything more is permitted only for children and women.

I don't believe it's a conspiracy against men. I mostly understand where most of these tropes came from. For example it used to be that men on screen expressed horny thoughts and oogled women. However it was often from a perspective where the women had no agency and were completely objectified. This objectification of women was also present in society. Punishing men who objectify women and praising men who don't was a big part of the change required from society by women's liberation, entry into the workforce and feminism as a whole. Female characters expressing horny thoughts or oogling men is part of showing more compete female agency since sexuality is such a huge part of the human mindset. Nothing here is a conspiracy against men.

We're at a good point in history to start showing that men can be whole and complete persons on screen and in real life. And I hope we start seeing it.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That last part doesn’t sound like a very good idea.

[–] unreachable@lemmy.my.id 8 points 1 year ago

never fulfill an answer to someone that we know cannot handle it

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Great metaphor given the fact that incarceration is such a poor model for reform

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

The weird horny thoughts on the bottom right is probably getting off being jailed like that