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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago (3 children)

We need to be ready to march in the streets if SCOTUS tries to pull some fuckery. They're not even supposed to be in the loop on elections. That's the newly elected Congress' job.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

We need to be ready to march in the streets if entities like local precinct offices or the Georgia Election Board try to pull some fuckery too, long before the fuckery even makes it to the MAGA SCOTUS.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hate to break it to ya, but marching in the streets won't solve this. More drastic measures would have to take place, and frankly I don't see that happening.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

If SC tries to hand the country over to a lying fascist insurrectionist there will be drastic measures. If they don't respect the rule of law then that's the breaking point where we stop respecting their laws. Biden has insane immunity coverage courtesy of the SC so we can start with some "official acts" of removal and see how all this plays out.

[–] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

LARP. Sounds amazing, really. But they stopped respecting the law long ago and nobody has done or will do jack shit about it.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I like to think so, but I honestly think people would maybe protest a bit but then everyone would go back to work and shrug their shoulders. I'd love to be wrong though.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

On the contrary a massive number of people on the streets is the only way we've seen effective change in the past couple decades. Violence has led to protracted conflicts with a low rate of success.

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (10 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ukraine is probably the most recent example. Russia invaded them but before that they threw their president out purely with people in the street.

In Egypt they caused a change of governance that wasn't a total improvement but was an improvement.

In Tunisia and Algeria they got favorable changes in government.

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] bigpEE@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yanukovych fled because people started raiding armories and shooting at Berkut. In Egypt the army sided with the protestors. Don't know Tunisia and Algeria off the dome but I doubt there was no violence or threat of imminent violence

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Once you have enough people that is the threat.

That's what so many people in this thread are missing. Without a visible critical mass of people showing support they're going to be dismissed as a small group of armed dissidents and everyone will stay home and cheer when we kill the terrorists.

With that critical mass of support the "government" would be forced to either abdicate or deploy force in the most immoral manner possible. Against an overwhelming show of support. Which swings it all the other way. This is why dictators shut down the Internet during protests.

So they may still get what is clearly their wish. But for the good of the country it needs to be done the right way if Trump steals the election.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Of course there was some violence. You think the cops are going to be peaceful? Ha!

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[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

Ready for more than marching.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 40 points 1 month ago

Remember, this is actually a question of what to do about a coup d'etat. Undercutting basic democracy is not a question of law, but a question of who will use force how much force to address it.

[–] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they pull another Brooks Brother or similar, then we fight.

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago
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